to think most men want a skinny woman

[theuglymate]

I go out with my friend occasionally and I can't think of a time when she doesn't have a crowd of men around her. We are similar age, height, I am no oil painting but not completely hideous either. The main difference is that she is a size 10 and I am a size 14. I always feel like that fat ugly mate and it is soul destroying.

I have never seen myself as a 'package'. I'm a person. Some people like me, some don't. If anyone based whether they liked me or not on what I wear/look like, I'd probably not be that keen to know them, even if they looked like Daniel Craig.

Haven't read whole thread BUT in general men do prefer slim women as do women prefer slim men. I prefer the look of slim women obviously when you know someone size is irrelevant but i don't think skinny is the right word here.

if you read the whole thread you would see this is a zombie thread brought back to life

never mind, an interesting discussion anyway

If you stick your tits out, laugh a lot and have a twinkle in your eye, men are going to want to shag you. Maybe flick your hair about a bit.

Ugh thank God I've never had to do that to get a shag. And if that is what it had to take, I wouldn't be interested anyway

Noddy you beat me to it, though I also haven't read the whole thread, but turned it on it's head. Do women prefer fat men or men who are leaner?

Not bothered.

I really believe that the culture of accepting largeness is as damaging as the skinny obsession. Slim is good fat is not it is unhealthy and not curvy or luscious or any other tabloid word for it. We have a growing % of US style fat people in the UK and if you criticise this you are considered cruel yet it is fine to accuse thin women of being bad role models and dangerous. There is a middle ground. I am not skinny at all btw. We have no need for supersize anything or bumper packs etc and food that starts off looking one way and ends up unrecognisable in a freezer cabinet is also responsible.

If you are in a superficial environment, out on the pull in a club, then those who are more conventionally attractive will receive the most attention. I've been that thin girl with long hair and yes, you do get way more attention as you are essentially signaling conventional attractiveness to quite stupid drunk men. However, this doesn't have a lot to do with whether you end up with a nice person as your husband, or whether you can still be attractive when you are no longer that thin girl with long hair luckily

I don't think it is always superficial though to be attracted to a healthy body shape it is quite natural.

I might be being slightly cynical about the whole thing because I'm in that relentless stage of bringing up small children where you suspect that all that lurve and romance stuff is actually just a massive biological trick to get you to procreate.

But it's true that the tits out/flicky hair shags are rarely worth the effort.

I think that you are believing you ugly as you said in posts and that comes across to people definitely a confidence issue rather than size. Get your hair done buy something you feel great in and smile !!

I think all else being equal, then yeah, it's a bit of a no brainer to assume that the average bloke would prefer a slim woman that a fat one. There's a reason a size 10 is considered to be more conventionally attractive than a 20, and that's quite simply because it is.

Just as given the choice, I'd much rather have a toned, fit bloke than a fat slob with bigger tits than me.

There's nowt "shallow" or "leering" about wanting a partner you find physically attractive. They're the one you're committing yourself to shagging every day for the rest of your life.

We are biologically geared towards choosing sexual partners that look healthy and fertile. More symmetrical (ie "prettier") faces indicate good health and good genes. Reasonably slim, fit bodies with a (for women) waist that is ten inches or so smaller than the breasts and hips also indicate good health and high fertility. Things such as shiny hair and clear, glowing skin are often coveted by women for the same reason because, again, these indicate good health, good genes, and high fertility.

At the end of the day we're animals. Sexual attraction is a base feeling, whereas political correctness is a fairly recent social construct (not that I think it's at all a bad thing). But the point I'm making is that we can't really help who or what we're attracted to. Even tiny babies are drawn towards faces that would be considered more conventionally attractive.

So it's just not true to say that looks don't or shouldn't matter. They do, and for good reason. Because our attraction to what is healthy and fertile is what has kept the human race thriving. It is not shallow to want a partner that is attractive, it is entirely natural. Shallow would be if you based your choice of partner on that consideration alone.