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to have smirked when David Beckham said....

314 replies

ThatVikRinA22 · 12/02/2012 21:32

on jonathon Ross that his wife had " a proper job".....i only watched it last night as i had it taped.

proper job??? proper job???????????
purlease!!!

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yellowraincoat · 13/02/2012 14:41

boglach, I don't think the OP is jealous, but I think she probably needs to not be so judgemental of others if she wants to be happy.

I couldn't care less what VB does, find her mildly interesting, but I certainly don't sneer at the things she says/does.

areyoutheregoditsmemargaret · 13/02/2012 14:44

VB works very hard. No one is forcing anyone to buy her dresses, department stores would not stock them just because of her name.

She could sit around all day eating bons bons and them throwing them up. Good for her, for carving her own path.

BrightnessFalls · 13/02/2012 14:49

Tom Ford and the rest dont sit there sketching, Im sure. Same as Nicky Clarke, I bet he doesnt stand on his feet doing blow dries all day.

OP the world would be very dull if there was no entertainment industry because, they arent "proper" jobs are they? No George Clooney to swoon over --I know, Im not his type-, no crappy pop songs to dance around the kitchen to on the radio. I really dont get what you are trying to say.

MY mum looks after the elderly in a care home, is that a proper job? I work for the NHS, vile shifts, is that a proper job? Neither me or my mother would begrudge the Beckhams or any other celebrity their millions. We just dont care or think about it.

noddyholder · 13/02/2012 14:51

The more you progress in many careers the less hands on you are. When I first started renovating houses and we were penniless we lived in them all and peed in buckets etc. Once we had a few under our belt we started living in rented places and it was easier but its still hard work

soverylucky · 13/02/2012 15:04

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noddyholder · 13/02/2012 15:09

How do you know? It may be hard to her. What are you comparing it to?

TotemPole · 13/02/2012 15:17

What's the definition of working hard?

If she messes up the business, it will mean people end up losing their jobs. I think that's a pretty stressful situation to be in.

She can't nip out without her hair, make up and nails done. If she does she could lose her credibility as a style icon and eventually affect her income. A lot of people would find that stressful.

jesuswhatnext · 13/02/2012 15:22

soverylucky, how do you know? - frankly i dont care if she does or dosent work hard, i quite like her designs, her kids look quite pleasant, her husband seems an alright kind of bloke but i just dont get why people want to belittle their achievements, assume it all comes easy peasy and without effort and begrudge them success? what have they ever done to deserve such vitriol? they are a business, they make and create wealth and money and appear to behave in a fairly civilised fashion, so why the nastiness? seriously, i can only assume it stems from jealousy.

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DamnBamboo · 13/02/2012 15:41

Sovery how on earth do you know how hard she works.
She has 4 kids, and she works too, even with paid help, that's a lot for anyone to do.

jesuswhatnext · 13/02/2012 15:41

no soverylucky, running a multi million pound business is easy peasy! Confused

like you say, you dont know how she fills her day!

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MrsHeffley · 13/02/2012 16:18

I agree with sovery.

A mother of 4 who gets up at 6,does the childcare/school run,commutes on public transport,does an 8 hour shift in Tescos/school/hospital on her feet all day,then does the food shop, picks up kids,gets home,cooks tea,gets school stuff ready for next day,cleans house,falls in to bed at 11pm in my view works hard.

Somebody who has paid inhouse help to cook,clean,look after kids,organise life,style,chaffeur who then 'designs" around a table with several helpers to do the high tec stuff hmm not so sure that can be called the same actually on thinking about it.

areyoutheregoditsmemargaret · 13/02/2012 16:24

I don't see why both lots of mums can't work very hard. It's not a working-hard competition.

VB's work will demand an enormous amount of travel, boring meetings, etc. People want her to fail, she is working her butt off to ensure she doesn't. She has earned huge respect from the fashion community. She obviously loves and cares for her children and even with help, you are the one ultimately responsible for making sure those children are OK. For all mothers, the buck stops with you.

hattymattie · 13/02/2012 16:40

I agree with Sovery - if I had endless help and cash maybe I could find my creative side! Wink . Don't think VB can be compared to the average working mother.

yellowraincoat · 13/02/2012 17:02

Is the problem here that she has fun doing her job? Just because it's fun doesn't mean it's hard.

Fun is not the opposite of hard. Of course, a lof of people in Britain seem to be predisposed to thinking that and enjoy belittling anything frivolous.

Working in a shop is not "hard". It's not fun, but it's not difficult.

Good on her for doing something creative that she enjoys. Who cares if she only does it because she has the money, wouldn't we all? If I had a shitload of money, I'd go and design stuff too, I probably wouldn't bother my arse doing half the stuff she has either. So she's obviously harder working than me, to still have the incentive to do ANYTHING.

noddyholder · 13/02/2012 17:15

I think if I was her I'd be bone idle so I can't really knock her

wordfactory · 13/02/2012 17:25

No I don't htink it's that yellow.

Lots of people have fun in their jobs. Mine is the sort of thing everyone says they'd love to do.

I think it's the pretense that this makes her an ordinary working mother which grates. Given how much help she has with the home and her DC, and how much control she has in her business (there was an article in The Times about her taking meeting with Harper present - not somehting many womne can do) her situation doesn't reflect the life of 99.9% of mere mortals.

Which is absolutely fine. She just shouldn't try to pretend it does.

yellowraincoat · 13/02/2012 17:28

When has she pretended it does?

areyoutheregoditsmemargaret · 13/02/2012 17:37

She has never pretended it does, this thread started with the OP smirking because DB said his wife had a "proper job"

Which she does.

And good on her.

Panfriedstardust · 13/02/2012 17:56

the OP's smirk is entirely unfounded - she has a 'proper job'. Boy, some of you women do like to bash each other if you think someone isn't martyring themselves enough by your book of life.

jesuswhatnext · 13/02/2012 18:06

so because she has 'help' she dosent work hard? oh my word!!, just because she dosnet do the 'drudgy' bits of life does not mean she dosent feel bloody knackered when she gets into bed at night - ffs, do you think men who run multi million pound corps dont work fucking hard just because they dont do the school run and wash up?

lashingsofbingeinghere · 13/02/2012 18:13

This thread is funny. We seem to be veering towards the Yorkshire Businesswomen's view of What is Hard Work.

Eeeeh, that VB doesn't know she's born.
Back in my day if you had 4 kids and ran a multi-million pound business you'd still have to peel a sack of spuds, haul coal from cellar t'fireplace, walk five miles to fetch water from swamp, do the weekly wash with yer teeth and cut yer old man's toenails with a blunt spoon. And all before yer breakfast.

DamnBamboo · 13/02/2012 18:15

lashings Grin

ledkr · 13/02/2012 18:18

Sorry if this has been said already but headcases? Really? Headcases? Does thr op mean perchance the mentally ill? Im shocked.