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The relationship section of MN makes my blood boil.

868 replies

aaaaaaaaargh · 30/01/2012 19:42

I will never set virtual foot in there again. I have imprints on my forehead of the keyboard from where I have been banging my head against it. It makes no SENSE!!! I have a jaw like Jacob Marley. There are so many threads like this:

OP: The other day I was a miserable cow, kids were stressing me. He came home to a complete shithole and then proceeded to clean up. I could sense he was a bit miffed at the state of the house so I told him to cook his own fucking dinner. He wanted to tell me about a problem with work, but I was pissed off and told him I wasn't interested, tell someone who gives a shit. He then shouted that I didn't give a toss about him and stomped upstairs. I can't live like this anymore.

Reply: He cleaned up?? How controlling is he? He then tried to make you listen to his work problems? What about YOUR problems?

Reply: He's emotionally abusive, but you know this don't you.

Reply: Definitely controlling, he doesn't care about what you want. He wanted to make you clean up and listen to his problems. Why the fuck are you cooking his dinner?

Reply: He shouted at you? This is abusive behaviour. You don't have to put up with this, you need to really think about how to proceed. Has he shouted before? This isn't normal.

Reply: Well actually, you weren't too pleasant to him. Perhaps you should look at YOUR behaviour.

Reply (to above poster): Great support there, this woman lives with an emotional abuser. Don't speak if you haven't got anything constructive to say. Don't listen to that poster OP.

Etc, etc....

I know that a lot of people in seriously abusive or violent situations have been helped in this section, and that that is an extremely good thing, before you point that out to me.

But some of the replies on other threads!!! Madness.

OP posts:
notfluffyatall · 02/02/2012 21:23

Fecking iPhone, sorry for spelling.

MitchieInge · 02/02/2012 21:25

so you are happy for all users of mumsnet to share whatever advice and opinions they think fit, but have some concerns about, what, the tone of the majority (or a vocal minority) on some parts of the site?

is it about having the confidence to say things that might make you unpopular or that buck the trend?

notfluffyatall · 02/02/2012 21:26

I said before, twice I think. All I did was ask how a poster reached a particular conclusion, what evidence was she basing it on. I wasn't rude or offensive about it. Hardly police tactics is it?

Sockrates · 02/02/2012 21:28

You said you want to stop them, fluffy. That they're making things up and are hysterical. You said that's your agenda if you have one.

notfluffyatall · 02/02/2012 21:28

MitchieInge

Who was your question directed at?

MitchieInge · 02/02/2012 21:28

"My contribution has been attempting to stop posters who have got all carried away"

oh, that doesn't sound too good. That isn't anyone's place but HQ. Probably best to add your own brand of support and advice and let the OP of any given thread evaluate all responses for herself?

notfluffyatall · 02/02/2012 21:29

"You said you want to stop them, fluffy. That they're making things up and are hysterical. You said that's your agenda if you have one."

Is that not a valid contribution to the OP?

MitchieInge · 02/02/2012 21:30

god, half a glass of wine - I don't even remember fluffy, sorry, maybe to the OP? Or any interested party!

ArtexMonkey · 02/02/2012 21:31

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Sockrates · 02/02/2012 21:33

Sure, fluffy, but it amounts to wanting to police the board be ause it's aimed at controlling other posters rather than responding directly to an OP. it's valid because you can post what you choose.

notfluffyatall · 02/02/2012 21:34

ArtexMonkey

No, why should I? She's made it quite clear that it's a parody. Not a bad one at that. So?

aaaaaaargh · 02/02/2012 21:37

Parody wasn't the best choice of word. I know the word I meant, but to my eternal frustration, it won't come to me, despite checking a Thesaurus. Parody was the closest.

The OP was a 'representation' of the kinds of thread that annoy me.
That's probably more appropriate.
And the post in which I used the word parody was also a representation.

Don't fixate on the word parody, it was a bad choice.

MitchieInge · 02/02/2012 21:38

Perhaps, annoying as it is when people post things we think are unhelpful, we are all limited to just stating our own case which could include something like 'I don't think all the posts saying x y or z are in OP's best interests, what I think would help is . . .'.

Obviously it would be lovely if we did have the right to stop people posting guff! But dull I think?

aaaaaaargh · 02/02/2012 21:40

God, you're going to hammer me for 'representation' now aren't you.

I can't think of the bloody word I meant, ok.

notfluffyatall · 02/02/2012 21:40

Sockrates

If I was appearing on every such thread and doing that I could, maybe, possibly, accept that, but I'm not.

I can absolutely post what I choose, I'm also more than willing to either retract a comment I've made or clarify it should someone ask me to. That's all I was asking for, some clarification. Pointing out to someone that their assumption has no evidence behind it is somewhat preferable to telling that person they're talking shit and to fuck off. Is it not? That's the response I get, and I'm policing the boards?

MitchieInge · 02/02/2012 21:44

"I can absolutely post what I choose"

this is either true for everyone or nobody, I don't want to sound like one of the MRA trolls with an obsession with logic but there is a bit of a discrepancy there between that statement and your earlier one about wanting to stop people getting carried away

notfluffyatall · 02/02/2012 21:44

Just to clarify. I would only retract if someone pointed out an error, not just if someone asked me to. That would be silly. Wink

ArtexMonkey · 02/02/2012 21:45

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Sockrates · 02/02/2012 21:46

I thought we were discussing your agenda, fluffy, rather than your activities. I haven't a clue how you post outside this thread. I think an agenda that begins with wanting to stop other posters from posting in a way you don't approve of amounts to wanting to police the boards. I'm not accusing you of doing so, I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm discussing my understanding of your agenda. That's all.

aaaaaaargh · 02/02/2012 21:47

#And the post in which I used the word parody was also a representation.

Or not. Oh I don't know, it was whatever you think it was.

notfluffyatall · 02/02/2012 21:48

MitchieInge

Ok, I absolutely agree that others can post what they choose....but.... if someone asks you to back it up shouldn't you be able to? I can, or if I can't I'll retract it. If that then makes the poster think twice about posting 'made up shit' again, great.

Xmasbaby11 · 02/02/2012 21:52

OP, yes I have seen similar posts! I would never post about a relationship because it's never balanced - often very anti men, paranoid responses.

MitchieInge · 02/02/2012 21:53

well it's difficult to back up something as subjective as your response to someone's relationship woes - if you read it and get the impression that the OP is simply having a bad day while others see something more sinister going on how do you back up either of those responses?

notfluffyatall · 02/02/2012 21:53

"I'm discussing my understanding of your agenda."

I said my agenda, if I have one. I don't, otherwise I'd be policing the relationship threads calling out all the bullshitters. Fuck, I'd be here all day!

MitchieInge · 02/02/2012 21:56

the main thing is that you feel confident about expressing the encouragement and support to the OP that you feel is appropriate

it doesn't really matter if you are going against the grain as long as you are sincere in your desire to help

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