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AIBU?

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Should my friend's DH pick her up after work?

199 replies

totallyscunnered · 06/01/2012 20:32

I think he should, she won't ask.

She finishes work at midnight. It's a mile walk home, along a partially lit country-ish road (fields on one side)

He has the car, she doesn't drive.

They have 2 DC's who are 13 and 11.

He doesn't want to leave the DC's in the house alone.

I think he should go and pick her up and not leave her walking home.

MN Jury, AIBU to think this?

OP posts:
Triggles · 08/01/2012 11:49

OP, YABU. And drip-feeding information to get people on your side of the argument, which is annoying.

You sound like you have a serious problem with her partner. And possibly that's not wrong. But you also sound like you regularly voice it to her. And that IS wrong. Many women, when confronted about their partner or their partner's behaviour regularly, will become defensive. You sound like you want her to leave him.. that's not going to happen until SHE is ready. So be a good friend - be there for her when you can - and stop reading her the riot act constantly about driving and her partner.

She is a grown woman. You haven't mentioned that she is disabled (or is that the next drip feed?) so I presume a one mile walk is within her capabilities. She's apparently been doing this for a few years, so why the concern now? Have you known her this whole time? Yes, she's probably tired and has a lot on her plate. But perhaps there are other ways to lighten her load. She could enlist her family's help with her parents or you could help her check to see if there is any local support that she could obtain for her parents.

I personally would not expect DH to give me a lift at midnight for a one mile walk home (and couldn't as I am the driver in the family). Nor would I expect to have to get out of bed and leave the house to go pick up DH at that time (as he is also a perfectly able adult) other than in exceptional circumstances. At this point, we have two young children, so it would be more trouble than it's worth anyway, but even when they are older, I would feel the same way. DH would respect my decision to walk myself (even though he might not be horribly keen on it).

clam · 08/01/2012 11:53

Why are people having a go at the OP, who is simply concerned for her friend?
Maybe more of us should be as caring for our friends.

lillypie · 08/01/2012 11:57

I have recently passed my driving test but before that H would pick me up from work at 11.30 bringing D with him.He has done this since D was 6 months old,she is now almost five.

I would want him to collect me if I didn't drive and would think that 11 & 13 are old enough to be left and home for a short time.

totallyscunnered · 08/01/2012 11:59

Triggles - I mentioned in one of my first posts that she had a lot on her plate.

"Totallyscunnered Fri 06-Jan-12 20:48:39
Cory - she just does it because she always has.

She's quite depressed atm and has a ton of stuff going on (elderly parents, money worries, issues of her own, other issues in the marriage) and this is just a small thing I can do to help her sometimes."

it's hardly my fault if people didn't pick up on that, so I don't think actually I was drip feeding.

I have never mentioned anything to her about her partner, despite what you may think. I have never ever expressed an opinion as to what I think of him.

I am there for her. So what? She's my friend?

I have replied to her when she asked me what I would do WRT to driving and told her I would have learnt long ago and she should get her bum in gear and learn.

Yes I have known her the whole time but as I said I did not realise he wasn't picking her up until I came home late one night around Christmas and saw her walking home. My fault entirely. I assumed he was picking her up.

Also how come he's entitled to go to bed and sleep, in your opinion, when she also has to get up for work in the morning? Why is his sleep more important than hers?

She has tried to get her brothers to help with her parents. They have not so far been forthcoming. Her mother is also a very difficult lady with a rather abrasive personality which makes caring for her difficult.

You ask why the concern now. First off, I didn't know he wasn't collecting her. Second off, she got into my car and burst into tears. That's why the concern now.

Why do you feel the need to take such a nasty hectoring tone with me?

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totallyscunnered · 08/01/2012 12:00

Oh and I have said, a number of times, IABU I haven't said anything to her, I don't intend to, but I will continue to help her out if and when I can.

WTF am I doing wrong?

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SecretMinceRinser · 08/01/2012 15:17

Imo you are treating your friend like a child. She has said she is fine walking - she doesn't want to ask her dh for a lift or get taxis. Has she ever asked you or your bf to collect her because you have only said that you have offered. I expect she is accepting to be polite.

Pendeen · 08/01/2012 15:36

Depends on several factors, one of which has to be the area in which she lives.

From @ age 14 until I passed my driving test I used to have to walk over a mile from the bus stop in the village up an unlit lane to our house - we lived in rural Cornwall (still do).

I never felt uneasy or worried.

Triggles · 08/01/2012 17:55

Not hectoring, but asking basic relevant questions. You didn't give all this info in the OP, so yes you did some drip feeding. About the partner, the abrasive mother, etc etc

In regards to her parents, she either needs to demand that her family step in and help more, or she needs to go find out what local support is available to them. If not, she'll end up carrying on as she is. So rather than badger her about learning to drive, perhaps you should encourage her to locate some local support if she can't get her siblings to help.

You say you've never mentioned anything about her partner, but think back carefully on your reactions and how you discussed things. It fairly DRIPS from your posts that you think he is dreadful. I would imagine some of that comes through in your conversations. Things like that are hard to hide.

So she's your friend and you're there for her, and feel she's having a rough time, so you tell her to get her bum in gear and get driving lessons????????? Okay, let's review. She's working TWO jobs, caring for her elderly parents, caring for her children, and you want her to add driving lessons to the mix?? When is she supposed to have time to do this??!?!?! And if she is working two jobs for their regular household budget, the likelihood of her having the money for the lessons is pretty slim. But hey, no pressure on your friend, right? Just bang on at her for something she doesn't have time or money for.... Hmm

So what if he's sleeping? Do we know what time he gets up in the morning for work? Are we all obliged to be awake until our partners get home from work or wake up when they get up to go to work?!?! Good grief, they're not joined at the hip, you know. They're ADULTS!! She is quite old enough to walk home on her own. She is not a child. My DH works early hours and used to work nights, so was walking for 1.5-2 miles five nights a week, quite late, to work. I drive our family car, but I don't drive him to work. He's an adult, who uses basic safety precautions and is sensible. He now cycles, but again, that was his choice. Does that mean I think my sleep is more important than his? No, of course not. It means I get precious little sleep of my own, and sleep when I can, so that I am also able to function during the day.

We don't know that horribly much about his job, their finances, their relationship, their arrangement for transportation and childcare, etc, to really say that he's being unreasonable IMO. I do think that you are being rather pushy about it though. Ultimately, she and her partner need to make these decisions. Not you.

totallyscunnered · 08/01/2012 18:21

Triggles - whereabouts did you miss that I have said IABU on a number of occasions and am going to keep out of it?

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warthog · 08/01/2012 18:34

i'm afraid that i think she's being a bit of a martyr. yes her dh doesn't sound great. yes she does have a lot on her plate. she needs to rally those around her more.

dh picking her up at 12am is not the answer. not on a regular basis anyway, but maybe once or twice a week. she does need to learn to drive.

UniS · 08/01/2012 18:41

walk or cycle, its only a mile, not far. If shes happy with the journey what teh problem. Quite nice on a dry night to walk home late with the moon. I routinely cycle or walk between villages here to get to events/ pubs in the evenings.

tinkertitonk · 08/01/2012 18:58

If you're concerned then give her a torch. Walking a mile is not exactly torture.

Triggles · 08/01/2012 19:09

You asked. If you don't want to hear differing opinions, don't ask.

totallyscunnered · 08/01/2012 19:26

And I have accepted IWBU and I will butt the fark out. Smile

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Xenia · 08/01/2012 20:09

Walks help with depression and she's been doing it for years. The husband might be asleep by 10,.30pm why should he stay up very late to pick her up? She's an adult.

working9while5 · 08/01/2012 21:27

Why on God's earth does she "need" to learn to drive because someone ELSE thinks she shouldn't be doing what she's doing? She has to walk a mile. Perhaps she "needs" the exercise or she "needs" to learn to cycle.

warthog · 08/01/2012 22:17

because it'll save her having to walk very late at night in all weathers. unless she's happy with that of course. which the op doesn't think is the case.

Jasper · 08/01/2012 22:25

good point Xenia.
Bizarrely this thread has inspired me to restart something I used to do when my kids were babies. Once they are all in bed I go for a walk in the dark . I'm just home from a 3 miler along the country roads near home. It was raining and windy and I feel great.
I plan to do it most nights.
thank you OP Smile

SlinkingOutsideInSocks · 08/01/2012 22:38

I wouldn't stay up until midnight to pick DH up from work several times a week. Blush Sorry, I just wouldn't - I flake out around 10PM and would be massively resentful at having to stay up until midnight. Irrational perhaps, but there you go.

Likewise, I wouldn't expect him to either, although I do drive. If I didn't / couldn't drive, I'd cycle the distance to make myself a bit safer.

CurrySpice · 08/01/2012 22:43

Why wouldn't you help your partner? I just don't get it

Jasper · 08/01/2012 22:44

assuming she has working legs she does not NEED help!

CurrySpice · 08/01/2012 22:47

OK, let me rephrase. Why wouldn't you carry out a simple act of kindness that will help make your hard-working, knackered, stressed out, unhappy partner's day so much easier

Why is accepting help a weakness?

Why is not wanting to do absolutely everything 24/7 seen as weak and feeble?

I repeat? I don't get it

Jasper · 08/01/2012 22:57

fair point, if she is all of those things, and the driving partner is still awake.Smile

PinkPepper · 08/01/2012 22:57

"OK, let me rephrase. Why wouldn't you carry out a simple act of kindness that will help make your hard-working, knackered, stressed out, unhappy partner's day so much easier"
How do we know the partner isn't knackered? I am always greatful when my DP picks me up from work but never expect it, only a 10min walk and though I don't anymore, it used to be late at night, but I felt safe enough, yeah I hated it but I bet dp would have hated dragging himself out, and, there really wasn't much need to make him do it when I could walk home almost as quick as him driving out, then driving back would be.

Jasper · 08/01/2012 23:00

I'd like to see a thread on here asking

" my friend's dh leaves their two kids(13 and 11) asleep alone in the house four nights a week to collect her from work, a mile away. The children are alone for about ten minutes . AIBU to think this is NOT ON?" Wink