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Pretty sure IWNBU - 2 friends declare IABU - DP huffed off and not speaking to me over my choice -

239 replies

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 14:23

I was pretty sure I was not being unreasonable but now having spoken to 2 close friends who say I am - I'm now trying to wriggle off the hook by going for an appeal with the MN jury! nc in case they recognise me now!

Been seeing someone for almost 6 months now,early days, we're not living togther). We've had a couple of conversations about porn, lapdancing clubs, etc. we both work in an industry where it is still common for the men to take male clients out to Spearmint Rhino etc so in the context of that awful german news story we were both saying we wished they would clamp down on at that at work because removal of corp cc's has not done to much.

Anyway, he knows my views (ex porn user, read too much and learnt too much about the industry to continue wanking away to other people's misery etc) - I know his (he uses porn, I have no idea what, I have no interest in trying to lay down ultimatums, that's his choice just as I have mine,I don't think I'm anything fantastic but having used porn myself I know it doesn't have to be about betrayal and doesn't make me feel insecure so I treat it same as if one of my friends wasn't vegetarian and I was - choice of ethics)

Right so all that being said, am boxing up DVDs to donate to charity shop and he's laughing saying I'm trying to hide my porn stash from him (stupid joke, was just being silly). And I say oh I got rid of all that ages ago, he says well what do you use now? I say my imagination and my memories I suppose. So then he starts quizzing me on memories, what do I mean memories, and I said just that, you know great sex you've had in the past.

So then I can see he's getting huffy - and basically argument evolves he wants me to stop using memories of great sex I've had because this is a betrayal and means I am thinking about having sex with other people (even if i never intend on having sex with any of them EVER again!). His view is that porn is anonymous (he doesn't have any favourite pornstars apparently - he just looks for latest photos/movie clips on websites) and therefore it is obvious it is not a betrayal but that I am directly comparing him to other men I have actually had sex with in my head. I said there's no comparing, its just remembering but no, major sulk, why can't I use porn like I used to? (not as if that's going to delete my memories but by then i couldn't really point that out because not helpful).

so my thinking is that he's a great big twat who wants to attempt to police my thoughts (and my wanking habits) in a way in which I don't want to do to him despite my own objections to porn. He huffed off (didnt stay over as planned) and no contact today.

Met friends for lunch and had a moan/vent and apparently i AM the unreasonable one in all of this because I have hurt his ego apparently. WTAF? Am I REALLY the unreasonable one in all of this? I just can't see it.

(ps. You know I'm going to be the kind of OP that clings desperately to the one person who says IANBU don't you!)

OP posts:
Nagoo · 05/01/2012 00:58

His argument makes no fucking sense at all.

If he can't understand how you get off on memories of being touched or, well, fucked, Grin then he's being a total dick.

Alright, you didn't give a tactful answer, and if I had got here early enough I could have got you out of it (tell him you thought about women, no man is ever upset about that idea now, are they Wink) but really, if you have managed to have a conversation where he says that webcam sex is ok, with a real life now person, but you reliving orgasms in your past is wrong, then he is a prize idiot.

WHAT A TOSSER.

PansPeople · 05/01/2012 01:02

no, you are safe. As a bloke here, for eg, one simply doesn't compromise one's partner, at all. tbh, your answer should have been an intrigue, not an issue.
Well done you.

fit2drop · 05/01/2012 01:05

he felt 'betrayed' and he couldn't trust me in future because i might want to have sex with these ppl again

OMFG! you have so made the right decision. To my shame I married the guy who would not allow me to watch blind date in case I fancied one of the male contestants. The same guy who would not let me listen to the radio because I stupidly mentioned that I quite like marti pellow and a wet wet wet record might be played.
He is now my ex (phew) he is an ex because he is the one who had an affair with a girl 20 yrs his junior .... sometimes these insecurities of theirs are because they paint us with the same brush as themselves. Just because he knew he was capable (and did have many) of having affairs he thought I was too.
Happens a lot I hear.

Best to get out stay out ... imaginary sex with your own hand has got to be better and far more satisfying than real sex with a self centered egotistical bigoted controlling dickheaded nob!

Ihatecbeebies · 05/01/2012 01:06

I think you were being unreasonable to tell him that sorry, he's obviously hurt, could you tell him you think about memories of being with him?

suburbophobe · 05/01/2012 01:07

He's a control freak.

His fantasies are o.k but your's aren't??!

Ihatecbeebies · 05/01/2012 01:08

Blush sorry, I just read the first page on my phone then commented, but you've since broken up.

MyChildDoesntNeedSleep · 05/01/2012 01:15

He sounds like a weirdo.

I think you've had a lucky escape tbh.

diddl · 05/01/2012 08:02

Oh well done!

I know i mentioned it earlier & not many responded, but I really don´t think that the majority of men use porn for a wank.

Not if in a relationship anyway.

Hullygully · 05/01/2012 08:24

RTFT - read the fucking thread

HRTFT - haven't RTFT

HTH

Hunz

Lolz

Whatmeworry · 05/01/2012 08:29

This must be the first breakup due to differences over wanking methods I have ever heard of.

HedleyLamarr · 05/01/2012 08:34

So in his world porn=ok and imagination=wrong. What an utter knob. I see you've got rid. Well done. I think you've done the right thing.

SlinkingOutsideInSocks · 05/01/2012 08:38

Well done. Grin

I'm still boggling over here in the cheap seats by all the usual Stepfords telling you that you should still be pandering to his ludicrous ego.

HedleyLamarr · 05/01/2012 08:42

Grin @ Hully

trulyscrumptious43 · 05/01/2012 09:04

YANBU
YANBU
There you go.

He really fished for that info and didn't stop digging, did he? Well you know what they say about snooping around. Although he didn't look through your old diaries it seems the verbal equivalent of.

Gone off in a huff, eh? You can look forward to much more of this behaviour if you decide to carry on with this relationship. Hmmm.

Leave the bastard Grin

trulyscrumptious43 · 05/01/2012 09:12

Oh sorry, you have sorted it out. My apologies.
Onwards!

TheScaryJessie · 05/01/2012 09:14

He's deeply insecure about women being sexually experienced. Since it's the 21st century, he can't easily limit himself to virgins, but he would like you to pretend you were. You must reinvent yourself anew, and pretend you never had a life before him.

Personally, I totally wouldn't. Bye, bye!

Quenelle · 05/01/2012 09:16

Definitely a lucky escape. I feel sorry for the next woman he meets though, he'll be checking all their wanking material from now on I expect.

TheScaryJessie · 05/01/2012 09:26

I was once told that it caused relationship or marital problems like this if women didn't "save themselves for The One".

The solution to relationship problems is not to assume you'll spend your future with an unreasonable git, and to live as if you were already married to him!

2rebecca · 05/01/2012 09:59

You sound well rid of him. If my husband asks me what i fantasise about I lie or dodge the issue. I ensure I never ask him.
The only acceptable answer to this question is "you darling" which of course is rarely true.
Wanting to control someone else's thoughts and fantasies isn't good for either partner.
Watching other women on webcams would be a definite reason for dumping someone though. That is far more of a betrayal than just imagining stuff.

aldiwhore · 05/01/2012 10:08

Never tell your other half about sexual fantasies unless it involves them. Its just not nice to say, or to hear! Even if it IS honest. You don't have to lie, just leave out the bit about "Barry from Sheffield and his amazing todger".

I'm not too good at it but I think its referred to as tact.

It works on a few levels. Firstly, the conversation doesn't get too deep regarding 'who, when, where'. Secondly, you don't get knee jerk reactions that spell doom for a relationship. You can't unsay Barry.

Cherriesarelovely · 05/01/2012 10:14

I don't think you are BU to be thinking of exes when you are having sex but I do think you are BU to expect him to tell your DP and to expect him to be fine about that. I consider myself to be pretty secure and not at all the jealous type but I would hate to think that my DP was thinking of her exes during sex. If she is/was I certainly wouldn't want to be told about it.

Cherriesarelovely · 05/01/2012 10:16

aldi you put it much better than me. Yes, it's about tact.

DillyTante · 05/01/2012 10:29

Yanbu. What was the point of him asking if he was just going to dump you because he didn't like the answer.

DillyTante · 05/01/2012 10:32

Most people who think the op is bu are missing the point that she never specifically mentioned ex's, she said memories of good experiences. I think that was pretty tactful. Was the only right answer "I only think of you big boy"?

ChristinedePizan · 05/01/2012 10:32

Why should the OP have lied? It's none of his business what she fantasises about when she's having a wank on her own.

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