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AIBU?

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Pretty sure IWNBU - 2 friends declare IABU - DP huffed off and not speaking to me over my choice -

239 replies

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 14:23

I was pretty sure I was not being unreasonable but now having spoken to 2 close friends who say I am - I'm now trying to wriggle off the hook by going for an appeal with the MN jury! nc in case they recognise me now!

Been seeing someone for almost 6 months now,early days, we're not living togther). We've had a couple of conversations about porn, lapdancing clubs, etc. we both work in an industry where it is still common for the men to take male clients out to Spearmint Rhino etc so in the context of that awful german news story we were both saying we wished they would clamp down on at that at work because removal of corp cc's has not done to much.

Anyway, he knows my views (ex porn user, read too much and learnt too much about the industry to continue wanking away to other people's misery etc) - I know his (he uses porn, I have no idea what, I have no interest in trying to lay down ultimatums, that's his choice just as I have mine,I don't think I'm anything fantastic but having used porn myself I know it doesn't have to be about betrayal and doesn't make me feel insecure so I treat it same as if one of my friends wasn't vegetarian and I was - choice of ethics)

Right so all that being said, am boxing up DVDs to donate to charity shop and he's laughing saying I'm trying to hide my porn stash from him (stupid joke, was just being silly). And I say oh I got rid of all that ages ago, he says well what do you use now? I say my imagination and my memories I suppose. So then he starts quizzing me on memories, what do I mean memories, and I said just that, you know great sex you've had in the past.

So then I can see he's getting huffy - and basically argument evolves he wants me to stop using memories of great sex I've had because this is a betrayal and means I am thinking about having sex with other people (even if i never intend on having sex with any of them EVER again!). His view is that porn is anonymous (he doesn't have any favourite pornstars apparently - he just looks for latest photos/movie clips on websites) and therefore it is obvious it is not a betrayal but that I am directly comparing him to other men I have actually had sex with in my head. I said there's no comparing, its just remembering but no, major sulk, why can't I use porn like I used to? (not as if that's going to delete my memories but by then i couldn't really point that out because not helpful).

so my thinking is that he's a great big twat who wants to attempt to police my thoughts (and my wanking habits) in a way in which I don't want to do to him despite my own objections to porn. He huffed off (didnt stay over as planned) and no contact today.

Met friends for lunch and had a moan/vent and apparently i AM the unreasonable one in all of this because I have hurt his ego apparently. WTAF? Am I REALLY the unreasonable one in all of this? I just can't see it.

(ps. You know I'm going to be the kind of OP that clings desperately to the one person who says IANBU don't you!)

OP posts:
AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 16:45

If I asked my DH the straight question "does my bum look big in this?", I would not expect an untruth for an answer, nor would I subconsciously want one

missuswife · 04/01/2012 16:46

YANBU. You cannot control someone's sexual fantasies. A more mature and confident man might be turned on by the fact that you have a healthy fantasy library and are comfortable talking openly with him about wanking. A healthy sex life should be based on trust and honesty, not on controlling your partner's private wanking habits--unless that's what you're into. My only advice is to offer to wank in front of him...a lot of guys really get off on that and it would make him feel included in your fantasy.

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 16:46

oh my fecking arse - thats the first good laugh i've had all day DB - the lovely sea captains!why are so many of them with white hair and beards!I didnt really think they looked like that (cap'n birdseye) but lots do!

OP posts:
fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/01/2012 16:46

my DH would rather die before ever saying I looked fat, even if I was 24 stone, strangely, sort of admire him for his loyal lying

SardineQueen · 04/01/2012 16:46

The equivalent to "do I look fat in this" is surely something to do with penis size or whether a woman "minds" after a sexual malfunction of some sort.

This was quite different - some couples do share all of their past and personal lives and they like it like that. It's not a straight this is the right thing to say / this is the wrong thing question. Like how many people have you had sex with? Truth or lie? Who knows.

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 16:49

i dont ask that qn about my bum - i got two mirrors to see my derriere and am fully able to confirm to myself that yes it ALWAYS looks big and no amount of drapage helps it!Id be an utter fool to ask anyone else and expect them to say no!You can't miss it!

done that missuswife!

OP posts:
ShirleyKnottage · 04/01/2012 16:49

"Does my arse look fat in these trousers?" is the equivelent of

"Does my gut stick out horribly in this shirt?"

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 16:50

DB Grin

that redbearddude looks hot

I wonder what he thinks about when he's having a tug fnnarr

oh, did I say that out loud ?

SardineQueen · 04/01/2012 16:51

Do women really go around asking about their arses / how fat they are? Most women I know are capable of looking in a mirror and seeing for themselves what they look like.

It's come from that sketch show hasn't it? Surely most women (and men) say how do I look / does this look OK.

Nesbo · 04/01/2012 16:54

ShirleyK - no I don't, but I'm not him, nor was I involved in that conversation.

We all carry around our own issues and vulnerabilities, and these can get exposed by what look to other people like fairly innocuous or only slightly tactless comments. Who knows what was going on in his head, perhaps it would help to ask, the answer might be very different from the motivations people are assuming. Perhaps he feels silly for over reacting now, but god knows we are all a bit irrational or over sensitive at times, it is part of being human.

The only real question is whether or not you are the sort of couple who want to and are able to sort things like this out. Talking the arguments through means you can end up knowing each other even better, and can ultimately make things stronger than you were before.

Or just get rid.

PansPeople · 04/01/2012 16:55

SQ - lots of women ask this Q.

Friend: Does my bum look big in this?
Her Dp: Not at all
Friend: Are you lying?
Her Dp: I am being supportive.

He works as a diplomat. S'true.

ShirleyKnottage · 04/01/2012 16:56

Well, you might have a point only he got shouty and has cut all contact - so...

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 04/01/2012 16:58

This is all COMPLETELY immaterial. I stand by what I said earlier - XP is using this as a reason to get WB to use porn again, despite knowing that she doesn't like it.
And she should be tactful and diplomatic?
[boot up arse emoticon]

minimisschief · 04/01/2012 17:00

You can wank to your memories to your hearts content but you cannot tell your partner that for blindingly obvious reasons.

put it another way. what if he told you he imagines you are an ex partner when you have sex because it turns him on more.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 17:02

mini...that is "putting it another way"

thus, rendering your question pointless

Whatmeworry · 04/01/2012 17:03

And she should be tactful and diplomatic?

Only if she wants to keep a relationship going.

The inconvenient truth of always speaking it is eventually no one wants to know you.

dreamingbohemian · 04/01/2012 17:04

AF Grin

Much better than the masterbait pun I was working on...

neshnosher · 04/01/2012 17:05

To be honest some opinions on this thread are vile and uncivilised.
Even hurtful.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 17:06

oh that's a good 'un, DB

dreamingbohemian · 04/01/2012 17:07

welcome I know, that's why I wonder if it's real! Do sea captains really all have white hair and beards? Maybe it's a fetish site.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 17:07

nesh, a bit viperish too, I reckon Smile

some wimmin are so nasty to men, I bet they will never keep a husband, right ?

yellowraincoat · 04/01/2012 17:08

Nesbo, I'd say the same to anyone, man or woman.

ItWasABoojum · 04/01/2012 17:11

Bloody Hell, YANBU! To keep badgering you to tell him what you wank to is intrusive, to get the arse when you're honest with him is childish, and to criticise you for ANYTHING you use to get you off when he's supporting the porn industry is massively hypocritical. I can understand why, having got your honest answer, he wished he hadn't asked, but that's his fault, and shouting at you for it is totally out of order.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 04/01/2012 17:14

I'd say asking your girlfriend what she wanks over is pretty uncivilised nesbo.

DharmaLovesDraco · 04/01/2012 17:16

If it were me I don't think I would necessarily finish things with him over this if everything else is good about the relationship. He would however have to apologise for behaving like and egotistical prick Grin