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Pretty sure IWNBU - 2 friends declare IABU - DP huffed off and not speaking to me over my choice -

239 replies

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 14:23

I was pretty sure I was not being unreasonable but now having spoken to 2 close friends who say I am - I'm now trying to wriggle off the hook by going for an appeal with the MN jury! nc in case they recognise me now!

Been seeing someone for almost 6 months now,early days, we're not living togther). We've had a couple of conversations about porn, lapdancing clubs, etc. we both work in an industry where it is still common for the men to take male clients out to Spearmint Rhino etc so in the context of that awful german news story we were both saying we wished they would clamp down on at that at work because removal of corp cc's has not done to much.

Anyway, he knows my views (ex porn user, read too much and learnt too much about the industry to continue wanking away to other people's misery etc) - I know his (he uses porn, I have no idea what, I have no interest in trying to lay down ultimatums, that's his choice just as I have mine,I don't think I'm anything fantastic but having used porn myself I know it doesn't have to be about betrayal and doesn't make me feel insecure so I treat it same as if one of my friends wasn't vegetarian and I was - choice of ethics)

Right so all that being said, am boxing up DVDs to donate to charity shop and he's laughing saying I'm trying to hide my porn stash from him (stupid joke, was just being silly). And I say oh I got rid of all that ages ago, he says well what do you use now? I say my imagination and my memories I suppose. So then he starts quizzing me on memories, what do I mean memories, and I said just that, you know great sex you've had in the past.

So then I can see he's getting huffy - and basically argument evolves he wants me to stop using memories of great sex I've had because this is a betrayal and means I am thinking about having sex with other people (even if i never intend on having sex with any of them EVER again!). His view is that porn is anonymous (he doesn't have any favourite pornstars apparently - he just looks for latest photos/movie clips on websites) and therefore it is obvious it is not a betrayal but that I am directly comparing him to other men I have actually had sex with in my head. I said there's no comparing, its just remembering but no, major sulk, why can't I use porn like I used to? (not as if that's going to delete my memories but by then i couldn't really point that out because not helpful).

so my thinking is that he's a great big twat who wants to attempt to police my thoughts (and my wanking habits) in a way in which I don't want to do to him despite my own objections to porn. He huffed off (didnt stay over as planned) and no contact today.

Met friends for lunch and had a moan/vent and apparently i AM the unreasonable one in all of this because I have hurt his ego apparently. WTAF? Am I REALLY the unreasonable one in all of this? I just can't see it.

(ps. You know I'm going to be the kind of OP that clings desperately to the one person who says IANBU don't you!)

OP posts:
SantasENormaSnob · 04/01/2012 14:41

I have just had the awful realisation that I have no past shags worth a wank ShockSad

Not really thought about the porn issue tbh.

I just can't imagine being with someone knowing they still tug over their ex.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:41

sorry lubey, I have to giggle at telling someone who has decided not to use porn for ethical reasons to tell her bf she gets off on old porn films to spare his ego

FredFredGeorge · 04/01/2012 14:41

YANBU, he's an arse for making you even feel that memories are inappropriate, and YANBU for even telling him in the context you had - a blow by blow account of what the memories were as you pointed out how he's much worse might be unreasonable, but nothing else.

Kayano · 04/01/2012 14:42

So it's a case of 'when I'm with you I can't get off without thinking
Of sex I had with someone else?'

If this was a man posting having told his Dw this he would be told he WBU but it
Seems its ok for you?

He is probably very hurt and feeling inadequate if you are imagining other men you have actually been with.

I don't think it's 'thought
Police' as such but maybe you could learn some tact or sensitivity. You've probably hurt his feelings

I would be hurt if DH said he had been fantasising about previous partners.

Double standards of MN it seems to me here

FlightRisk · 04/01/2012 14:42

YANBU at all.

How ridiculous!!! He sounds like a bit of a control freak IYAM.

I don't use porn I use memories, usually they're actually faceless because its not the person you're contentrating on but the experience.

He's being very immature and you have to decide if it is a child or a boyfriend you want Smile

Shakey1500 · 04/01/2012 14:43

I absolutely think YANBU.

GoingForGoalWeight · 04/01/2012 14:43

YABU - must have been hurtful, I know that I would be hurt if a guy said that to me.

Kayano · 04/01/2012 14:43

And about the 'he is playin the OMG I am so hurt card'
Wtf?
Why can't he actually be hurt by this?
Because he is male?

LaurieFairyCake · 04/01/2012 14:43

Yanbu

Wanking over real memories that you own and are in your head, fine.

Wanking over possibly abused and exploited individuals, not.

I wouldn't care a jot if dh wanked over ex girlfriends. How insecure would I have to be to do that? Hmm

Policing someone's mind is totalitarian ridiculousness.

Get rid.

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 14:44

just for the record I did not mention anyone specific (although he wanted to know but tbh who can recall that kind of stuff when they're not in the moment?) but i then had to be evasive which is why it all escalated. we are late 30s/early 40s. its impossible to get this age and not have memories surely? him using porn doesnt dent my ego - why would me choosing another way to get in the mood dent his?

OP posts:
WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 14:45

flightrisk - ok you've put it much better - yes kind of faceless because youre not thinking of who is in the memory its what they/you are doing

OP posts:
Moobee · 04/01/2012 14:46

YANBU. I couldn't be bothered with always having to censor myself for fear of crushing a tiny ego. Obviously there are limits to this but most people these days have a past - having to deny that is not healthy.

Kayano · 04/01/2012 14:46

So you are totally
Honest but also evasive Hmm

Don't really get it. It's one thing to use
Memories
And fantasys etc but to tell them you think of past great sex with other people is deliberately hurtful

lesley33 · 04/01/2012 14:46

It wouldn't hurt everyones feelings. My DP wouldn't mind. But it is raesonable for it to hurt his feelings. And talking about "denting his ego" just sounds like you are actually being really dismissive of his feelings.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:47

santa, I don't think Op meant she diddles over her ex

she is using her imagination to remember good times

if my DH was naming names "Oh I loved that BJ Sarah gave me in 1993" then that would rankle

but I know he's had some great times before me ( much better ones since, of course.. [wink )

and vice versa

is there a chip to wipe our memory of it ?

wank to porn, or wank to the memory of your bank of real great experiences

I know where my preferences lie

LaurieFairyCake · 04/01/2012 14:48

The only way you're being a teeny bit unreasonable is to tell someone that when you don't know them that well. (as obviously people are sensitive about some things and you don't know him well enough yet to know that)

Although at least it's outed him as a twatty mind control fool who thinks he can tell you what to kit kat shuffle to.

SantasENormaSnob · 04/01/2012 14:48

I'm not insecure at all.

I just can't imagine dh informing me he still wanked over his exes.

As I wouldn't tell him the same.

Why on earth would anyone need to know that?

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:49

kayano why are you putting words in the OP's mouth ?

she never said "she can't get off without thinking of someone else"

you say double standards here...I say you are making it up as you go along

ShirleyKnottage · 04/01/2012 14:50

Good Christ, I think the point is that is was weird for him to even ask her TBH.

Hmm

In fact it's all a bit weird. Why don't you like porn? Er, cos I don't. Have you got hidden porn? Er, No. HOW DO YOU GET YOURSELF OFF? Er Go Fuck Yourself 6 month long boyfriend of weird.

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 14:51

kayano - where are you getting this from? Am talking about going solo,never said i was getting off to other men while having sex with him - yes that would be hurtful.

had to be evasive because i realised he was getting upset/angry (not violent at all just shouty) - so is him getting off to porn ok then? i can now think my own ego is dented and ask him to stop?

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Whatmeworry · 04/01/2012 14:51

YANBU to have your views, but YABU to not expect him to be pissed off.

As others have said, imagine the reverse and see how it plays to you.

And this is the male ego we are dealing with....whatever you do don't tell him about the size of previous partners' cocks....

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:52

shirl Grin

SantasENormaSnob · 04/01/2012 14:52

Yes I agree Shirley.

Odd to even ask.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:52

the male ego

the biggest but most fragile thing, in most need of protection like ever

get a grip, some of you

FlightRisk · 04/01/2012 14:53

I wouldn't say you would be necessarily using experience with an ex either. What if you've had a great time with him? You could be thinking about a fantasic time you've had with him?

Did he even think about that?