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AIBU?

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Pretty sure IWNBU - 2 friends declare IABU - DP huffed off and not speaking to me over my choice -

239 replies

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 14:23

I was pretty sure I was not being unreasonable but now having spoken to 2 close friends who say I am - I'm now trying to wriggle off the hook by going for an appeal with the MN jury! nc in case they recognise me now!

Been seeing someone for almost 6 months now,early days, we're not living togther). We've had a couple of conversations about porn, lapdancing clubs, etc. we both work in an industry where it is still common for the men to take male clients out to Spearmint Rhino etc so in the context of that awful german news story we were both saying we wished they would clamp down on at that at work because removal of corp cc's has not done to much.

Anyway, he knows my views (ex porn user, read too much and learnt too much about the industry to continue wanking away to other people's misery etc) - I know his (he uses porn, I have no idea what, I have no interest in trying to lay down ultimatums, that's his choice just as I have mine,I don't think I'm anything fantastic but having used porn myself I know it doesn't have to be about betrayal and doesn't make me feel insecure so I treat it same as if one of my friends wasn't vegetarian and I was - choice of ethics)

Right so all that being said, am boxing up DVDs to donate to charity shop and he's laughing saying I'm trying to hide my porn stash from him (stupid joke, was just being silly). And I say oh I got rid of all that ages ago, he says well what do you use now? I say my imagination and my memories I suppose. So then he starts quizzing me on memories, what do I mean memories, and I said just that, you know great sex you've had in the past.

So then I can see he's getting huffy - and basically argument evolves he wants me to stop using memories of great sex I've had because this is a betrayal and means I am thinking about having sex with other people (even if i never intend on having sex with any of them EVER again!). His view is that porn is anonymous (he doesn't have any favourite pornstars apparently - he just looks for latest photos/movie clips on websites) and therefore it is obvious it is not a betrayal but that I am directly comparing him to other men I have actually had sex with in my head. I said there's no comparing, its just remembering but no, major sulk, why can't I use porn like I used to? (not as if that's going to delete my memories but by then i couldn't really point that out because not helpful).

so my thinking is that he's a great big twat who wants to attempt to police my thoughts (and my wanking habits) in a way in which I don't want to do to him despite my own objections to porn. He huffed off (didnt stay over as planned) and no contact today.

Met friends for lunch and had a moan/vent and apparently i AM the unreasonable one in all of this because I have hurt his ego apparently. WTAF? Am I REALLY the unreasonable one in all of this? I just can't see it.

(ps. You know I'm going to be the kind of OP that clings desperately to the one person who says IANBU don't you!)

OP posts:
squeakytoy · 04/01/2012 14:26

Having quickly read it, yes YABU if you effectively told him you were wanking to memories of other partners. That would be bloody hurtful.

Flanelle · 04/01/2012 14:27

Shit - what a mess! Tell him the memories you meant are of great sex with HIM? Or is it too late for that bit of backpeddalling? Unles it is true?

Worry about his ego the day you sense that he has equal cosideration for yours.

YANBU for substituting a head full of nice memories for a head full of porn - which is horrible. Don't argue! It just is!

GypsyMoth · 04/01/2012 14:27

Yanbu!!!

You are welcome to cling on

Kayano · 04/01/2012 14:27

YABU

Wow

Flanelle · 04/01/2012 14:29

OBVIOUSLY you don't want to trample on his feelings. That would be bad. Make it up to him I guess (make something up anyway).

Do the penises in porn not make him feel compared to in any way? I hear they can be quite large.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:30

he is BU

and so are you if you blithely accept an attempt to control you

I don't take too much note of male egos, though

and inactual fact, the more fragile they are, the more it makes me ignore them

now if I were you, I would have a little think about whether you wanted to be in a relationship with a man who has had a little tantrum, then gone silent and whether he expects this kind of behaviour to make you go running after him to apologise and do what he says

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 14:31

Clinging like a limpet in a cyclone Olympia!!!

squeakytoy - should i have lied then? i am pretty straight up honest when it comes to relationships,have had my share of bad realtionships in the past and long ago decided lying does not help (if its you or the other person) but this is obviously what my friends were telling me - can you explain why please?

flanelle - i was trying not to be too specific but hard when you're getting a grilling

OP posts:
SantasENormaSnob · 04/01/2012 14:31

Yabu

If a boyfriend told me he was still wanking over ex shags I would dump him ASAP.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:32

you see, many women would

are you that kind of woman ?

SoupDragon · 04/01/2012 14:33

How would you feel if he said he fantasises about ex girlfriends?

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:33

I would rather my partner told me he was thinking about past real good times he had actually experienced, than thinking he needed the plastic artificiality of porn to get him off

MrMeaner · 04/01/2012 14:34

YANBU - that makes two.

Having said that, when I once mentioned similar to my DW many many years ago her reaction was similar to your partner's...
Personally wouldn't worry me at all if someone was remembering past episodes, but I advise white lies the next time the question is asked...

lubeybooby · 04/01/2012 14:35

Oh, not often I disagree with AF but in this case I think it was a hurtful thing to say to him and YABU

I'd have said it was memories of old porn films or stuck to the 'imagination' line.

YuleingFanjo · 04/01/2012 14:35

yanbu.

maybe you shouldn't have told him but yanbu to do it. He is being a thought police and a posessive twat.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:36

OP...you weren't talking about specific people, you were talking about using your imagination to remember previous good experiences, yes ?

we are all a sum of our experiences

porn is amn ampty and soul-less thing

i know my DH has shagged other women before he met me and vv

we are partly the people we are because of it

I have no sexual jealousy about past partners unless he would say something like "I preferred Jenny's tits, they are much better than yours" of course

WelcomeToDumpsville · 04/01/2012 14:36

i dont think its realistic to think people wipe their memories - he thinks i'm a bit weird for not wanting to use porn any longer - i get that - I did alot of thinking about it and it evolved as my only option as a response to the more I learnt.

Santa - you'd be fine with a boyf wanking over porn though?

Anyfucker - yes obv I am having major major major second thoughts - atm my thoughts are that i won't be contacting him - if he wants to contact me fine but until i know what it is i am supposed to be sorry for and can see that I can't anyway iyswim? no i would expect any partner who was not a complete and utter virgin (as in no sexual contact with anyone ever) to have memories that they might revisit when theyre in the mood - does no one else do this - I am obv weirder than I realised!

OP posts:
grippingon · 04/01/2012 14:36

YANBU. We are all free to think about whatever we like during wanking AND sex. I'm sure he does.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:36

*an empty and soul-less thing"

sorry, poor typing skills

Elderberries · 04/01/2012 14:37

I think you should have just said your imagination...I would be very hurt to be told that my partner was wanking to memories of ex girlfriends. White lies are there for a reason.

lesley33 · 04/01/2012 14:37

YANBU to wank over memories. YABU to tell your bf this.

And yes you should have lied - by omission. You should have just said you use your imagination and not mentioned the memories. Its called protecting each others feelings.

In the same way if you looked hideous in a photo taking at a do you would want him to reassure you that you didn't actually look like that in rl at the do - even if you did.

I think in relationships you should generally be honest. But I don't think your honesty here was ever going to achieve anything except hurt his feelings.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 04/01/2012 14:38

"memories of old porn films" that is just as bad, surely

and isn't "imagination" something that comes out of your own thoughts and experiences ? ie. the shags you have had in the past (as a total mass...not individual ones)

I think that is what Op meant

ShirleyKnottage · 04/01/2012 14:39

YANBU.

I hate all that "male ego" bollocks - as if we all must bow down as men are so much more sensitive than women. CHUH! To that.

If someone told me what I could or couldn't think of while diddling myself I would laugh in their actual face.

He's a dick.

fridakahlo · 04/01/2012 14:40

In my opinion he is being ureasonable in the extreme. Your head, your memories, your masturbation. Not using the exploitation of others to fuel your pleasure, unlike him.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 04/01/2012 14:40

Bollocks.
He's playing the "OMG I am so hurt" card to try and get you to use porn again, possibly to assuage any guilt he might feel using it, or so he can use it with you.

I'd never EVER ask DP what goes on in his head when he has a wank because

A) It's none of my business
B) Why the hell would you want to clamber inside someone's head like that
C) I've no interest in knowing the answer

If he can honestly truly state that he's never thought of past sexual experiences when he's having some 'own time' then he is actually a MARTIAN.

Tell him to fuck off.

griphook · 04/01/2012 14:41

yanbu, not really sure why he's getting in a huff tbh

i think he's being a twat