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in asking your opinions about this news story ( girl attacked by 2 year old playmate)

186 replies

Crazyfatmamma · 21/12/2011 15:27

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2077039/Katie-Ann-Guttridge-3-beaten-black-blue-2-year-old-Leicester-nursery.html

Sorry daily mail article :)

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QueenLush · 21/12/2011 20:58

Lack of supervision. DD2 was injured badly, aged 5, by a child who was out of control when she was in Yr 1. He bit her shoulder and hung on by his teeth and had to be "unhooked" by the teacher. The school asked his parents to remove him at this point, as the teacher was devoting all of her time to making sure he didn't attack anyone else, rather than trying to teach.

snowybun · 21/12/2011 21:03

The thing is these 'attacks' have been unsupervised how do we know if it wasn't children not sharing or snatching toys. The reason I say this as my son was agressive and violent when others snatched or approached him he has an asd diagnosis now but his behaviour at that age was awful if I took him to toddler groups I shadowed him as he was also non verbal which made things worse. But his preschool had 1:1 funding for him allowing them to take more time to show him good positive play, sharing and helping him 'understand social situations'. I have been in the awful position of having to apologise to other parents when incidents happened and I would be so embarrased if we had got to national press just because the nursery could not manage.
This nursery should be ofsted inspected to find out exactly how and why these incidents are occuring bearing in mind they know she has difficulties and has agressive outbursts ( I will not say attacked because how do we know if this child has any control when this happens). As others have said all the children attending that nursery are being let down by the staff. And as for the girls nickname the ADULTS using that should be ashamed of themselves yes they are intitled to be annoyed but take it to the staff demand things are sorted and the girl is helped or moved to somewhere that she will be supported and be given good role models.

ArthurPewty · 21/12/2011 21:07

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pigletmania · 21/12/2011 21:09

I do think that the child should be removed from the nursery and placed in one specialising in children with SN, it is obvious she has emotional and behaviour issues which need to be addressed, this is not average 2 year old behaviour. She should also be seeing a Paed or Child Psychologist, to find out the root of the problems.

pigletmania · 21/12/2011 21:11

The attitude of the parents are Hmm, I would not want them as my child's CM.

sozzledchops · 21/12/2011 21:25

Really Piglet, you are an expert on this child from one story in the press?

pigletmania · 21/12/2011 21:34

sozzled that beating a child so that they have bruises like that on their face is not normal toddler behaviour don't you think! SN can be dx from that early on, I am not saying that the child has, but that can't be ruled out. Yes if the child has inflicted those injuries onto another child, they do need to seek professional help as there could be something wrong.

pizzatheaction · 21/12/2011 21:34

aaaargh. one of the 'attacks' was the kid putting two lego bricks together and trapping a playmate's finger. ffs. call the police.

the child needs supervision, and redirection. not locking up in an institution.

this is ridiculous demonisation. in the extreme. and i really hope the dm gets hauled over the coals for this entire episode.

UnexpectedOrangeInMyStocking · 21/12/2011 22:53

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skybluepearl · 21/12/2011 23:39

the bursery are responsible for all the injusries. And chuckys mother must be really vile - poor kid.

Moominsarescary · 21/12/2011 23:41

Pinching the childs hand between two duplo bricks
Hitting her with a plastic drummer
Pulling her hair and sucking her face.

The marks on her face this time were caused by her being bitten so the accident report says, not beaten

Unfortunately at 2 my son did all those things on occasions (except sucking people's faces) so did some of the other children in the nursery

He stopped doing it around the age of three

It's awful that the poor little girl was bitten 3 times so hard that it's brides and cut her face but what sort of nursery doesn't notice that happening

Moominsarescary · 21/12/2011 23:42

Bruised even

sozzledchops · 21/12/2011 23:47

Why must 'Chucky's mother be vile - do you know her as well?

festi · 21/12/2011 23:52

what is the bursery and why is the mother responsible? surely the non supervising adults are responsible.

festi · 21/12/2011 23:53

ment to say why is the childs mother vile (not why is she responsible)?

pizzatheaction · 22/12/2011 00:07

i'm guessing bursery is a typo for nursery. Grin

of course chucky's mother isn't vile. she seems eminently sensible to me. i wouldn't be talking to savage journos who have demonised my toddler in the press, either.

festi · 22/12/2011 00:14

yes of course Grin a typo, sorry

pigletmania · 22/12/2011 08:12

There was a boy at dd pre school who used to hit and pull hair, he pulled dd hair on several occasions, later it transpires (my friend knows his mother) that he has been dx with AS and dev delays. Though the mother is not responsible for the incidents, if that is her attitude as documented in the Mail, its a pretty don't care one to take imo, and she should be seeking help for her dd.

GlueSticksEverywhere · 22/12/2011 09:02

Methe And i could no way go to the DM about it because, well, i'm not a massive cunt. Grin

TheScaryJessie I love the one from someone who thinks the solution is for another child to "knock the girl out".

OMG did someone actually say that!

TheScaryJessie · 22/12/2011 09:11

gluesticks

Yes, they did. She thought it would be great to watch, apparently. Hmm Teach her "to learn fear".

halcyondays · 22/12/2011 09:20

You do have to wonder what all the nursery staff were doing while all this was going on, especially the last time. Of course children do things like this but as she was known to hurt other children they should have been watching her like a hawk. The fact that another child had to come over to tell them that the wee girl was crying says a lot.

OriginalJamie · 22/12/2011 09:24

StickyFloor. Good post, and I agree. But tell me you wouldn't go to the DM???? The reporting of this same story in the local paper shows up how crap and inflammatory the DM is.

(can you tell I hate the DM?)

TheScaryJessie · 22/12/2011 09:25

It's been removed. I should have taken a screenshot.

Still, I'm going to remember that the DM comment moderators let that one by...

molschambers · 22/12/2011 09:37
  1. The nursery is really crap with poor supervision.
  2. The mother of the injured child should be ashamed of herself taking this to the tabloids.
  3. The aggressive child needs a 1-to-1.
kerrymumbles · 22/12/2011 09:40

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