in asking your opinions about this news story ( girl attacked by 2 year old playmate)

[Crazyfatmamma]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2077039/Katie-Ann-Guttridge-3-beaten-black-blue-2-year-old-Leicester-nursery.html

Sorry daily mail article :)

lisaro - was the mum of the attacker a childminder? I thought this happened in a Nursery?

Is this, by the way, a nursery attacking by stealth thread? Sigh.

omg

aside from the obvious... it says "another child told me Katie was crying"

so NO staff even noticed that she was beign attacked??? that's shocking

the nurseryt is failing all the children, and that includes the one attacking others

Lots of children bite, pinch, push at this age and grow up to be completely normal. OTOH this does sound a bit extreme

ah - read it all, I see she is a childminder for other children.

DS goes to nursery with a childminders daughter. It's because of the ofsted rule about how many children under a certain age you can mind at once. It's cheaper for her to put her DD in nursery.

Similar experience with dd at this age, she was punched in the face with a toy fire truck, had to get stitches above her lip.

Bullied on and off for a few years by same child.

Someone asked how a two year old gets so violent, well turns out the child in our situation was witnessing horrendous dv at home, he prob thought it was normal to do that to girls. Always felt sorry for him after i found that out.

OMG that poor little girl.

I am sorry but I think the child that did this should be expelled and her parents should seek help

Blondie how did you find out he was witnessing DV?!

grapevine?

wow sounds like a crap nursery
poor children

If the LA are dragging their feet with assessments maybe this was designed to be a kick up the backside?

hoping that someone gets a useful result out of the mail

it doesn't say she is at nursery full time does it? she may wel only do her 15hrs a week that's free?
and why should she not get to go to nursery just because her mum is a childminder?
I am a sahm but I still take advantage of the free childcare. and a lot of nurseries take kids from 2yrs 9 months...
ds2 LOVES nursery, i wouldn't stop sending him just because I cold have him at home.

Oh that makes sense. I was thinking wtf the nursery can't tell you that!

The place sounds like it needs a hell of a lot of supervision.
Feel sorry for both girls tbh

and like pagwatch, i think the most worrying thing is that a sustained attack went unnoticed. a crying child went unnoticed.

i can understand the parents going to the paper though if this is happnening a lot and the nursery are doing sweet FA about it.

Yes, YABU to ask here. There is an "In the news" section, you know.

yy thisis

No, your right it doesnt say full time

That's a lot of attacks if she's only there for 15 hours a week though isn't it..

I can't wait for my DS to start preschool in Jan but if he was a danger to other children I wouldn't send him.

I have twins who will be 3 in a month. They are very quick! They go to nursery and we have (unfortunately) had to sign the accident book a few times. Mainly they direct their frustration at each other.

The injuries in the photo are pretty bad, but one of my boys hurt his eye by falling off a chair and onto the corner of a table. It was horrible, OH felt awful as he was sitting next to him and didn't catch him. We took him to hospital to have it checked out, and luckily he was fine. Looked awful for a long time.

The accident report looks normal to me, aside from the biting which is excessive. I feel really sorry for the little girl who has allegedly done these things - unless this is all witnessed by parents or the nursery staff are telling the parents who it was (they are not allowed to, and from the article they wouldn't anyway) then how do they even know it is this girl all the time? Two and 3 year olds are not always so reliable.

And maybe the reason she is in nursery is because the mother can then charge for looking after a child her age and thus she earns more money?

Just trying to find some rational explanations as this story is borderline hysterical.

Atrocious nursery, atrocious article, atrocious comments on the mail article. I love the one from someone who thinks the solution is for another child to "knock the girl out".

Timeforabiscuit

Fair enough. But I am not sure why having a toddler nowaffects that. I suspect that the noise levels etc at my dcs nurseries were pretty much the same as a nursery today.

Probably I am missing something but you didn't ask who had had a toddlers at nursery. You asked who had one now. But I have no fucking clue either way. That is not specific to my dc ages.

Poor buggers. I would not be happy leaving my kids with that childminder or at that nursery. :(

Two year olds can be nasty and vicious, of course they can and that's why the adults are there to guide them towards not actually maiming each other with firetrucks every five minutes

"And i could no way go to the DM about it because, well, i'm not a massive cunt."

Quite.

dreadful-that kid needs one to one supervision

regardless of whether or not the kids behaviour is within the realms of normal, if you know you have a "biter" then you keep an extra close eye on that child don't you?
it doesn't have to be 1:1, it just means that whoever is closest to her is just paying a little bit extra attention

the fact that the didn't even see this attack happen or notice the little girl crying speaks volumes