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AIBU to be stunned that school could have sent DS 4 YR home in this state???

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sponkle · 21/11/2011 20:13

My DS who is 4 was extremely upset when I collected him at home time this afternoon.

He was unusually the last out (they have a policy of bringing the children to the door and sending them off to parents once they have checked they are there) The TA approached me and told me that he had become upset as they were lining up at the door to leave.

It is not at all like him to be upset at pick up time and so I was asking him what the matter was and giving him a cuddle. I smelled a funny smell and asked him if he had had an accident, he said No.

The TA told me he had stepped in something. The teacher then told me he had been fine all day but that he hadn't eaten his lunch. I asked him if he needed to go inside to go to the loo and he refused, telling me he just wanted to go home. I noticed he was walking strangely as we were walking home. He was still very upset.

When we got home it was apparent that he had had an accident, so I stripped him off and put him in the bath, at which point he lost it and was crying and shaking uncontrollably.

Poor thing had had diorreah and the combination of this and being wet had left his legs incredibly swollen and bleeding and weeping as it had macerated his skin. He couldn't sit in the bath or bear to get it wet.

He couldn't sit or lie down at all and once I had managed to calm him down and clean him up as best I could without touching it, which took some time, I called the surgery to speak to the nurse. She told me to put sudocrem on it which I did and give him some calpol. He didn't sit down all afternoon.

I tried to give him another bath before bed but it was too sore for him to sit, still weeping and oozing all the way down to his knees. He is asleep now in bed, even though lying down is very sore for him.

At no point did the school call me today. it was obvious he had had an accident. When I asked him when it happened he told me at lunchtime.

I am so upset that the school didn't notice, or at least if they did call me to come and either sort it out or collect him.

AIBU??? I feel like going to talk to the Head tomorrow. he will not be at school tomorrow as he cannot even get dressed, despite having had an upset tummy. This is his first accident at school, so it isn't as if it's a regular thinh that they are fed up with dealing with. Any comments???

sorry so long, just upset.

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joannita · 23/11/2011 10:38

Poor love. Metanium is MUCH better than Sudocrem. Hope he's better soon.

RumourOfAHurricane · 23/11/2011 10:48

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4madboys · 23/11/2011 11:06

i would be friggin LIVID if this happened to one of my children.

infact a few weeks ago ds4 who is 3 and at pre-school (attached to the school) had diahhrea at pre-school, like your son, liquid down his legs kind, they cleaned him up IMMEDIATELY and put him in fresh clothes and called me to come and get him saying he was upset and a bit out of sorts so obviously feeling poorly.

they couldnt have been nice about it, and i know this is pre-school NOT school, but next sept he will be reception, and there really isnt much difference, yes its school but they are still very youngand someone should have noticed and dealt with him, or at least phoned you up!

and as for the dog poo...errrm i would be very cross if a school playground had dog poo in it and they should have checked his shoes.

i really hope his skin heals asap, let us know how you get on with the school today ((your son))) xxx

4madboys · 23/11/2011 11:08

shineon i dont think its that unusual to get VERY sore skin as that kind of poo makes skin very sore, like another poster had said when mine have had diahhrea when in nappies even when changed immediately they have got red, sore bottoms andt he skin on bottoms etc is very soft and delicate and doesnt take much for it to get sore and to the point of bleeding.

McDreamy · 23/11/2011 12:29

DD1 has skin like this - or maybe it's that she has toxic poo! As a baby I had to change her immediately or else she was left we red, weeping, raised sometimes bleeding skin. It was awful and very painful for her. Unfortunately we found this out the hard way Sad

I think this is a truly shocking story, your poor DS Sad

Blatherskite · 23/11/2011 12:35

Both my DC's had the runs last week. DD is in nappies. Even changing at the first whiff she was red and sore. I can quite imagine 3 or 4 hours in dirty pants and trousers could cause bleeding, especially if he was moving around in it and rubbing it in Sad

ExitPursuedByaBear · 23/11/2011 12:44

Hope your DS's legs heal soon and that you get some resolution with the Head.

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porcamiseria · 23/11/2011 13:02

Oh bless, YANBU. schools really copuld be a bit kinder about this kind of thing I think, esp for the littlest ones. Poor little man. hope he recovers and you can calm down and handle this constructively! x

spiderpig8 · 23/11/2011 13:11

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CocktailQueen · 23/11/2011 13:16

Hmm, I agree with spiderpig - I honestly cannot imagine/believe that any school teacher/TA would let a child to remain in this state. What about risk of infecting the other children for a start? If any child at our school has D or V the parent is rung immediately and they are taken out of the classroom. In any school dcs come into contact with several other adults during the day so even if the teacher/TA didn't notice then how about parent helpers, other teachers, dinner ladies - the other children would say something too! Sure;y his trousers would have been wet, etc etc? Very bizarre.

IF it is true though, it is shocking.

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Sparklingbrook · 23/11/2011 13:26

I can see your doubts, it must have been quite soggy.

If it isn't true it's a bizarre thing to start a thread about.

RainboweBrite · 23/11/2011 13:30

Hope your DS is feeling much better by now. Is he due to go back tomorrow?Has the Head been in touch yet?

MudAndGlitter · 23/11/2011 13:34

Hope your DS is better today

Rubyx · 23/11/2011 13:50

My eldest had a poo incident when he was four and they offered to clean him up but he wouldn't let them come near him and then they phoned home and i picked him up and sorted it. Have a go at the teachers nicely,, and reassure your son, how must he be feeling the poor boy.

Thinkingof4 · 23/11/2011 13:51

sponkle hope ds is better today and that headteacher gets in touch. I think you should write letter regardless of whether he phones so there is documentation of what happened.
It is neglect, pure and simple

Ghoulwithadragontattoo · 23/11/2011 14:01

If anyone thinks OP is a troll they should press the report button to notify MNHQ. Don't post on a thread where OP needs support and has been getting it so far.

OP - I really hope your DS recovers quickly.

Redwinelady · 23/11/2011 14:23

Of course it is true! That is exactly why I am so upset about it. Believe me, I have better things to do with my life than to invent stories to gain attention from virtual friends.

My son had wet and soiled trousers the school didn't notice. My son had wet shoes the school didn't notice. My son had to sit and walk in said clothing through lunch and all afternoon, the school did nothing. He did smell horrendous, the school did not notice. The worst of the sores are where his thighs rubbed when moving and around his pants where they would have rubbed too. He has fairly sensitive skin. I do not feel as though I should have to justify myself to those who doubt me just because the school were so negligent it is shocking.

Unless you have any useful advice or support for me or my poor son please don't bother wasting my time spoiling for a fight, I am saving all that energy to deal with the Head who has still not bothered to call.

MollyTheMole · 23/11/2011 14:24

Shineon and other suspicious types - it is totally possible for the scabbing, weeping etc

DS1 had a 'ghost poo' (ie. no immediate smell apparent) a little while ago and he went for a relatively short while before a change (about 2 hours). When I came to change him I was horrified to see that the skin where incognito poo had been was angrily red and started to swell up so if OPs DS has gone for ages without a change then no wonder it is how she described it.

Poor little lad, OP id be ripping new arseholes at that school if it was me Angry

Ghoulwithadragontattoo · 23/11/2011 14:33

Poor little boy Sad Ignore those saying you're inventing this. Not sure why they get so excited to doubt perfectly likely posts. If they are not sure they should simply report without upsetting the OP.

RumourOfAHurricane · 23/11/2011 15:40

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Sparklingbrook · 23/11/2011 16:09

Shock at the head not calling still. What on earth is he doing?

WinterIsComing · 23/11/2011 17:02

DS had diarrhoea so toxic and virulent following his MMR that it woke DH and I up practically choking at the stench even though he was in a cot on the other side of the room. He has had it on and off for years and yes, when it happens it has damaged his skin in the time if takes to get a new nappy and the changing mat out so I can completely see that after a couple of hours it would hurt this much.

Usually, as shiney says, it takes ages for this sort of thing to happen and is sadly something you read about in cases of severely neglected children where the ammonia from urine causes it to break down and almost burn the skin, but I've seen it myself with DS.

So glad he is getting better Smile

Hannah31 · 23/11/2011 21:04

I bloody hope the head called at some point today. Sorry for late reply re. Ofsted. I think I'd leave them til later because I'm not sure what good it would do to involve them yet, and it's good to keep something back as a threat (eek) later on. I think basically you need to know that it isn't going to happen again, and what steps the staff will take to make sure it doesn't happen again, and to make sure everyone knows that you are extremely (and rightly) angry about this (AND about how it's been dealt with in the aftermath). Sort of, 'I'm sure that there's no need for me to take this any further at this point as long as I know what steps will be taken to deal with this'. Although if the head still hasn't been in touch today, I think I'd go straight to the Governors and bypass the idiot anyway. And I'd go to the LEA before Ofsted. Everything in it's proper order! Stupid head; if he (if he is a 'he') phoned and talked to you properly, he could probably sort it all out without any further action necessary. Pillock. Hope DS is a lot better.