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To not want to be addressed as Mrs, and not Ms?

265 replies

MitziKinsky · 15/11/2011 17:01

One of my DCs teachers always addresses me in writing as Ms. Kinsky.

I have the same surname as my DC, I wear a wedding ring, and often draghave DH with me, so I expect to be addressed as Mrs Kinsky, or even Mitzi (I am on first name terms with all the other staff at this school).

I find using Ms when you know someone is married a bit rude. I'm contemplating pointing out, nicely, that I'm a Mrs.

OP posts:
LRDtheFeministDragon · 16/11/2011 12:33

No, I wouldn't. I'd just use my first name. But I've never heard anyone use 'Miss' and Firstname either - is it more formal/polite?

catgirl1976 · 16/11/2011 12:35

Miss Firstname makes me think of Southern Belles for some reason

"Why Miss Elizabeth, I do declare...."

That sort of thing - don't know why!

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 16/11/2011 12:36

Me too! And Jane Austen ? Miss Marianne and all.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 16/11/2011 12:36
Grin

Now you mention it, you're right! I have heard people use Mss firstname like that.

scatter, are you American then?

LRDtheFeministDragon · 16/11/2011 12:37

*Miss, not Mss. Clearly my fingers are conspiring against Miss, too.

ScatterChasse · 16/11/2011 13:02

Nope, I'm English LDR.

I started helping teach dancing when I was about 14, and my teacher wanted me to call myself Miss Chasse, but I thought it was too formal, so she let me use Miss Scatter instead. I have friends who use it as well though, two or three tutor, one's a music teacher, one's a childminder.

I think we all it because if you start teaching people not that much younger than you, you perhaps want to separate yourself a bit, but not quite so much as Miss/Mrs Lastname.

Nevertooearlyforcake · 16/11/2011 13:28

BluddyMoFo I couldn't agree more. I always feel a complete tosser on the phone when I tell people it's Ms but I'll never use anything else. Or change my surname, that completely bemused me as I feel it's part of my identity but I think I'm a bit weird here because most people I know were happy to change.

If the teacher hasn't been specifically asked not to, why is using Ms rude? Is my title is an insult in a foreign language?

*wanders off wondering if known as Bumbreath NTEFC in Swahili...

HowAboutAHotCupOfShutTheHellUp · 16/11/2011 13:34

I don't like 'Ms'. I am a 'Miss' now and I will be a 'Mrs' when I am married. However, if I am addressed as 'Ms', I dont let it bother me too much, there are far more important issues to get offended about Wink

Ghoulwithadragontattoo · 16/11/2011 13:36

Have you asked them not to use Ms? If so YANBU. If not Ms is a perfectly sensible neutral title which I would use if I didn't know which title a woman preferred.

So in my case I am Mrs Dragon but am perfectly happy to be addressed as Ms Dragon. I would not like Miss Dragon however.

cory · 16/11/2011 13:37

Have noticed that students have started referring to me as Ms Cory on the exam papers instead of using my title. Have a sneaking suspicion that the male professor still gets called Professor X, though. Though I would dearly love to know what they call the female professor. Dare I ask?

blonderedhead · 16/11/2011 13:43

I am a married Ms (and was a single one too), for the same reason as many other posters. I always refer to others as Ms unless asked to do otherwise. Just say, I prefer to be Mrs xxx, and be polite about it.

umadoopaloop · 16/11/2011 13:51

Have noticed that students have started referring to me as Ms Cory on the exam papers instead of using my title.

What is your title? Dr? Or have you made it clear that you prefer to be known as Mrs?

chocablock · 16/11/2011 14:00

Totally agree indignant. I am a ring wearing married woman who also likes to be called Mrs. I think the school should treat parents more individually and address them with the title they ask to be addressed by whether that is Mrs or Ms. It is also annoying when people insist on calling my DH my 'partner' when they know I am married!!!

fotheringhay · 16/11/2011 14:06

I vote for no title at all

nethunsreject · 16/11/2011 14:07

I'm Ms and am married.

I dislike Mrs (for myself), but I would use that title if someone wanted me to use it in reference to them.

I hate the assumption that I am Mrs. I'm sure people who dislike Ms feel mucht the same.

nethunsreject · 16/11/2011 14:07

YES forthering - no title would be fine by me!

fotheringhay · 16/11/2011 14:09

Mumsnet campaign! (joking Grin)

HazleNutt · 16/11/2011 14:20

by they way yes I think it was a bad decidion to make up Ms in the first place. I have no issues with being Frau in Germany, because all adult women are addressed as such, regardless of their marital status.

megapixels · 16/11/2011 14:21

I don't like Ms. too, though I prefer it to Mrs! I wish there was a neutral sort of title (that doesn't make any assumptions about the person in question, Ms. is a bit loaded) like Mr for adult women regardless of marital status.

I am married, don't wear a ring and have a different surname to my children as I kept my maiden name, but still get called Mrs. Tbh it's too much to expect the school to be keeping track of names and titles of several hundred parents for informal conversation with the school office.

Towndon · 16/11/2011 14:57

Mumsnet campaign! (not joking :o Wink)

umadoopaloop · 16/11/2011 15:30

Er "like Mr for adult women regardless of marital status. "

That's exactly what Ms was meant for

The only reason it's politically loaded is certain people have certain views. It doesn't change what it's meant for how it's used, or how it's intended...

cory · 16/11/2011 15:59

umadoopaloop Wed 16-Nov-11 13:51:40
"Have noticed that students have started referring to me as Ms Cory on the exam papers instead of using my title.

What is your title? Dr? Or have you made it clear that you prefer to be known as Mrs?"

My title is Dr. I have no preference for Ms/Mrs, just a feeling that students tend to assume that male teachers are doctors or professors and that a female member of staff is probably some kind of teaching assistant.

umadoopaloop · 16/11/2011 16:15

cory oh yes, I see!

cory · 16/11/2011 16:24

in fact, though students naturally address us by our first name, I have noticed once or twice that they speak of my male colleague as Dr X and then write MsCory or MrsCory about me

LRDtheFeministDragon · 16/11/2011 16:34

You need to switch to a woman-dominated department! Wink

At my place there was until recently a female prof who was involved in a huge amount of the undergraduate teaching and running of courses, and so she was very visible to them - and I've noticed how the older undergrads who were first years when she was teaching tend to assume all professors are female, whereas the younger ones don't. Odd how easily conditioned we are, isn't it?

Mind you I also remember someone saying that their child, despite having a female GP, figured out from pop culture/school books that doctors were men. Confused