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to think that Michael Jackson's music was a bit shit?

193 replies

AtYourCervix · 05/11/2011 16:03

Nasty voice, whiny, weak and high pitched.

mediocre pop shite at best.

and just whiny and bizarre when he decided he was he messiah.

Bollocks and crap.

OP posts:
Sparklingbrook · 21/07/2021 08:42

@Jaden003

How sad that you are missing out on the greatest artist in history. To know his true genius you need to have all his unbelievable albums.
Bumping a ten year old thread. Confused
Thewiseoneincognito · 21/07/2021 08:45

You need to be able to understand music and have excellent taste to realise just how good his work was. His performance was another level.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 21/07/2021 08:50

@rycooler

Yabu - he was brilliant - but you'd have to know about music to really appreciate him.
Okay, couple of things here.

First, I do know about music, but I'm not convinced of his genius. I mean, he was a really good commercial artist - but the whole King of Pop thing is just absurd.

Second, if your job is to sell as many records as possible (and Gordy certainly convinced MJ young that that was the idea) then you've pretty much failed if people 'have to know about music to really appreciate' it. The whole point is that it should be massively accessible - and his sales would suggest that it is.

If you mean that you have to know about music to understand why and how what he did was so clever, you might have a point - but that's not going to make the OP like his music any better, and it comes across, @rycooler, as 'some people just aren't musically-educated enough to recognise brilliance'. I mean, that might be true of the work of, say, Harrison Birtwhistle, but Jackson? I think not.

And lastly, there's this whole 'performer' thing that confuses the issue. The fact that he could dance with a hat on makes absolutely no difference at all to his records, or to the experience of hearing them. They would be what they are even if he waltzed like Jabba the Hut.

Some might say that the stage performance is intrinsic to the work and the whole thing has to be taken as a package. In which case, I'll say that for me it detracts from the package, because I find that schtick utterly hollow and irrelevant.

So, OP, though I'm not quite as anti as you, I don't think you're being unreasonable. Though if you were to say the same sort of thing about The Beatles, or Aretha, or Costello, I'd be organising an angry mob with torches and pitchforks.

SmugglersHaunt · 21/07/2021 08:53

Basically Jimmy Savile with a sparkly glove

WalkingOnTheCracks · 21/07/2021 08:53

...and I've just noticed that this thread is older than MJ was when he had his first hit single....

SchrodingersImmigrant · 21/07/2021 09:06

I've just reaoised the bumper @Jaden003 has no other posts.
2 optiona. Scammer or MN staff😂

Maggiesfarm · 21/07/2021 09:22

@SmugglersHaunt

Basically Jimmy Savile with a sparkly glove
Don't say that, no comparison at all. Saville didn't sing (apart from Ahab the Arab), or dance, he was a DJ. He also didn't have any close friends, was very much a loner (and we eventually found out why), people thought they knew him but didn't; Michael Jackson had many good friends and his family.
Manzanilla55 · 21/07/2021 09:24

He was amazing during his Heal the World tour days. An incredible performance at Wembley. Unforgettable.

Maggiesfarm · 21/07/2021 10:35

That's true Manzanilla.

TheSunShinesBrighter · 21/07/2021 10:37

@naturalbaby

early stuff - genius late(r) stuff - deluded
Motown stuff great (Jackson 5) Solo stuff awful.
TheSunShinesBrighter · 21/07/2021 10:39

Maggiesfarm

I think the comparison is that the creep factor was there all along. Plain for all to see.
People chose to look past it.

TheSunShinesBrighter · 21/07/2021 10:40

@WalkingOnTheCracks

...and I've just noticed that this thread is older than MJ was when he had his first hit single....
Haha! So it is!

Who dug this up?

TulipsTwoLips · 21/07/2021 10:41

@naturalbaby

early stuff - genius late(r) stuff - deluded
I agree
TheSunShinesBrighter · 21/07/2021 10:43

@Jaden003

How sad that you are missing out on the greatest artist in history. To know his true genius you need to have all his unbelievable albums.
It was you Jaden003

This thread is from 2011.

I’m happy not to have any of his albums.
I’m surprised his songs are still played on the radio.

HopeMumsnet · 21/07/2021 11:05

Just to make everyone aware, this is a re-animated zombie post.

Rach212 · 21/07/2021 11:07

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Chikapu · 21/07/2021 11:10

None of his stuff was to my taste, too whiny, too self-indulgent, too plastic.

igelkott2021 · 21/07/2021 12:39

I liked Thriller, Billie Jean and Beat It.

The rest was meh.

brokenbiscuitsx · 21/07/2021 12:44

I feel this way about Beyoncé. I feel like the image has overtaken the talent.

SprinklesMcDoodles · 21/07/2021 13:06

I find his music and stage shows underwhelming to be hones. Standing in one place while people scream is not entertaining. Prince on the other hand... that was true talent. I went to one of his after shows years ago and he was amazing.

Sparklingbrook · 21/07/2021 13:09

Wonder what @Jaden003 was trying to do here?

Eveningtwilight · 21/07/2021 15:14

It’s a Thriller Zombie Thread

BorderlineHappy · 21/07/2021 16:18

I could never stand him
He does the same dance to every song.

TheSunShinesBrighter · 21/07/2021 16:24

@BorderlineHappy

I could never stand him He does the same dance to every song.
The crotch grabbing was gross. Was then, is still now. 🤮
FuriousCheekyFucker · 21/07/2021 16:28

If a parent had let their children share a bed with 40 Year Old Michael Jackson the plumber from the next street, then quite rightly, they'd have been up in court for enabling child abuse.