Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU? DIL says I am

263 replies

EmmaInADilemma · 28/10/2011 10:25

Bit of background first. I'm retired, mediocre pension but I do a little bit of part time work. I own my own house outright. I'm comfortable but not particularly flush with money in the bank.

I have two sons, mid 30's. One is married, both DS and DIL have reasonable jobs, mortgaged to the hilt and their one DGS is at primary school. I help out where I can. I can do some of the wrap round care. I baby sit when asked, which is infrequently as they rarely go out as they don't have the spare cash for a hectic social life. The nature of my PT job allows me to have DGS most of the holidays thus avoiding expensive clubs. They rarely go on holiday certainly never abroad on expensive holidays. DGS isn't materially spoilt because a they cant afford it and b they just aren't the sort of people to indulge in must have gadgets cell phones or consoles

My other son is in a relationship. Not married. She has two from a previous relationship which my son treats as his own and I treat them as my own GC. They have a further three DC together. Neither of them work. She's never worked and I can't remember the last time he worked with any regularity. So they are both home to do school drop and pick up. They call in and out of my house several times a week either with or without the children. If Im going into town I will call and see if DIL wants to meet me for coffee etc. We have a good relationship. These GDC do have every conceivable gadget going. Even the 7yo has a blackberry. They think nothing of taking the DGC out of school and going abroad to get cheap flights and accomodation. They know the offer of babysitting is there if they need it and the younger ones do come over in the holidays too.

So. Christmas is coming. I asked DIL what the children wanted this year and that I was thinking of buying other DGC a laptop as a one off special present. I know DS and his DIL just couldn't afford something like that. So she said along the lines of thats nice but it will be expensive buying 6 laptops. I said that wasn't what I meant and her DC have all the gadgets and I certainly couldnt afford a present bill of nearly £2,000 and she had to be sensible about what I could afford.

Then the resentment came out. I favoured one DGC over the other five (I don't) that I do more for my other son and DIL than I do for them, that I pander and babysit at the drop of hat and it was all awfully unfair. I was shocked. I never knew she harboured all this. If the boot was on the other foot and she worked I would be picking up her DC from school and having them in the holidays. If they were strapped for cash I would try to help out where I could. But the simple fact is, they aren't and have quite an affluent lifestyle in comparison and don't need my help as much.

I really dont think I was being unfair or exercising favouritism by buying one child, who has very little, something nice when all his cousins already have the same thing (and more).

AIBU?

OP posts:
RealityIsADistantMemory · 28/10/2011 10:29

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ScaredBear · 28/10/2011 10:29

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ssd · 28/10/2011 10:30

yanbu at all

you sound lovely

i have 2 sons too and am scared of a scenario like this!!

how did they turn out so differently?

what advice would you give to your younger self, or are they just different people?

btw, stick to your guns, that dil sounds a wasteofspace bit mad

WardrobeYeti · 28/10/2011 10:32

I don't think you are being unreasonable to buy that present. I think it would be a lovely gift for your grandchild whose parents have a great deal less money and little chance of being able to afford a laptop for their child. And the differences in treatment surely stem from the radical difference in circumstances, not out of favouritism.

I don't see what's so wrong in buying one something nicer when the others have "every conceivable gadget going" already.

RealityIsADistantMemory · 28/10/2011 10:33

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

pictish · 28/10/2011 10:34

Mmm....I'm afraid it IS unfair to spend far more on one gc than the others, and buy him a super duper prezzie.
Whatever surrounds your decision (and I can see you have made it sensibly and with consideration) to do this, it will not be well received by those who are not being treated quite so favourably.

The same for all or not at all.

TandB · 28/10/2011 10:34

I don't think YABU if there is a big gulf between what one set of GC have and what the other set have - especially if this is a one-off and not a pattern.

The other GC is also an only child so you are effectively buying one expensive gift for that family - could you afford something of equivalent value between the other family? Perhaps a games console of some sort?

CustardCake · 28/10/2011 10:35

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

diddl · 28/10/2011 10:35

How is that fair, though-that one child gets the same in total as the other five?

pictish · 28/10/2011 10:35

Why not offer to go halfers with his parents on the lappy instead?

fedupofnamechanging · 28/10/2011 10:36

I can see why you want to buy a laptop for the kids who don't have one and on the one hand it makes sense to help the family who need it more, but otoh, life will be easier for you if you spend the same on each of your dgc. the ones who don't get the laptop, could view it as favouritism, even though it isn't. Children don't understand about trying to even things up in a material sense.

You should tell the dil who kicked off, that if she and her partner were working, they would get the same level of help from you. Given that they are not, and don't need the additional help, then she needs to wind her neck in.

TeddyRuxpin · 28/10/2011 10:36

I do think that the DGC should have equal amounts spent on presents. It's unfair to spend hundreds of pounds on one child and not the others.
I don't think YABU with regard to the babysitting.

herbietea · 28/10/2011 10:37

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

LizzieMo · 28/10/2011 10:37

I don't think that she has the right to expect you to give the same thing to all your grandchildren, it is a gift and you are free to give whatever you want to whoever you want. However I am not sure why you mentioned it, did you not see this situation coming?
Now that it has happened I think you need to explain to your son exactly what you have said to us- that there is currently a greater need with your other GS. Point out what you do for them and assure him you will continue to help out in the way that you do. Then just leave it. You do not need to justify the presents you buy.

EllaDee · 28/10/2011 10:41

I don't think YABU.

I have to say, I really dislike it when people justify spending they way reality does - splitting the money between the two DSs and not the children. It comes across as if they children are being treated differently for having more/fewer siblings, not as if they were people in their own right. So I wouldn't use that justification.

Can you just say that you would have bought the other GCs gadgets had they needed them but you think they don't, and you prefer to buy gifts when you see a need? My parents did a lot of 'we're buying a big present for x this year because he needs it, but another year it will be your turn', and I think it works well. After all, another year one of the others may have more obvious needs (maybe you can do something for them their parents don't do - trips out, or something non-material?)

Re. the babysitting: do you do it because you enjoy it or because you feel you have to? To me it sounds like a lot and you sound lovely to do it. But in theory, if your other DS or his partner got jobs, would you want to cut back with DS1 in order to help with DS2's children? Or what? I wonder if maybe your DS's partner wants to know this?

But you are doing a favour with the babysitting, it is not something she should expect!

SharrieTBGinzatome · 28/10/2011 10:41

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

OldGreyWassailTest · 28/10/2011 10:43

Buy them all the same amount in Christmas Presents. Then, in the January Sales, get the other DGC the laptop and don't say anything about it to DIL.

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 28/10/2011 10:43

It was stupid of you to tell this other DIL that you are thinking about the laptop, that is all.

I too am curious to know how they afford all those things - and all those children! - if neither of them work.

lambethlil · 28/10/2011 10:44

YANBU, but tactless to mention ths laptop to the other DIL.

lashingsofbingeinghere · 28/10/2011 10:46

YABU However deserving the DGC is, I think it's unfair to buy him a very expensive present and not do the same for the others. It just looks like favouritism, even if you don't intend it too.

Icelollycraving · 28/10/2011 10:47

I think it is a little unfair. The big question is how on earth do they afford their lifestyle with 5 children?

OTheHugeWerewolef · 28/10/2011 10:47

Basically you're making a moral judgement here that the DGS with hard-working, thrifty parents who don't buy him many expensive items is more deserving of a treat than the indulged, be-gadgeted DGC with lazy parents who don't lift a finger.

I think YANBU to make that judgement. He's certainly more likely to be grateful. And I think that as grandma it's your prerogative to make it if you wish. Others will disagree though and say that it's unfair that the DGC should be treated differently based on their parents' actions.

SharrieTBGinzatome · 28/10/2011 10:47

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

Collision · 28/10/2011 10:48

If my Mum spent £400 on sister and £10 on me then I would be a bit peed off!

YABU.

Work out what you can afford to spend and split equally between all grandchildren. If that is £20 each maybe offer them the cash so they can save up for something they really want.

Inertia · 28/10/2011 10:49

I think the fall out from this would cause more trouble than it's worth. I don't think you can justify getting 1 gc something which is clearly so much more.

Only way round that I can see is that you get each family a laptop, and buy token individual presents of similar value for the gcs. Then have a quiet word in the ear of son 1 to explain that it's intended to be for grandchild's use, for homework etc.