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Just gone postal at this woman for making out I was an abusive parent.

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thatgirlsevil · 15/10/2011 20:33

As the title suggests...I've just gone postal at a woman who decided to follow me down the street and comment on my parenting techniques.

It started off when myself and 3YO DS left a shop after I refused to buy him a treat on the basis of his naughty behaviour (not listening, running off)...he was doing the whole I'm-not-walking collapsed jelly legs thing and I was pretty much hoisting him along and chastising him through gritted teeth (holding him by the wrist but not applying any pressure)...but yes at some points dragging him (no skin touching the floor, just heels) as he protested and tried to resist, although not hurting him to be absolutely clear.

When I let him go he was throwing himself on the concrete and I tried getting down to his level and talking to him but he was too 'in the zone' to see reason...as I shouted at him... exasperated by this point and getting quite upset, he ran off and almost ran into the side road so I grabbed him around the waist, scooped him up as he kicked out and protested and I shouted at him, quite loud...no swearing or horrible words, just general chastising.

The final straw came when I let him down and he bit my middle finger...HARD and broke the skin and it started bleeding quite heavily. I grabbed his hand and at this point started walking very fast across the road to the other side and shouting at him. He was half running beside me and now sobbing...finally moving his legs though because he knew he had totally crossed a line and done something completely unnacceptable.

At this point a woman (mid twenties) sprinted after me and tells me she has been watching out the shop window and it was really terrible to watch...she tells me I should be calm and get down to his level and keeps repeatedly saying how she had been watching and she was sure others were watching and feeling very concerned for the little boys welfare. She said I was making a scene and again, people were watching....and then she actually asked me something along the likes of WHY WAS I TRYING TO GET HIM HOME SO FAST...WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THEN?

It was at this point that I ABSOLUTELY FLIPPED at the suggestion DS might be in danger...and started shouting who the hell was she judging me on the basis of seeing 5 minutes of my parenting at it's worst...I asked her what she was suggesting I might do to DS and how she thinks I could be handling the situation better without spouting Supernanny #101 rhetoric.

I said that I doubted she would have the brass neck to approach a parent who actually was doing something like hitting or swearing at their child in the street.

I basically told her she was an idiot who didn't have a clue what was actually occurring and I clearly needed support rather than condemnation right now. I also said how her tackling me and undermining me in front of DS was idiotic in the extreme when he was clearly having a tantrum, a natural common thing.

I showed her my hand and was shouting about how he'd bit me extremely hard...hence my whipping him across the road and him being in tears. I was ranting now...out of anger, embarrassment and just general exasperation...and I was getting noticeably teary.

I asked her if she had children herself and she hesitated before saying "umm...yes"...it seemed like a lie but maybe she was just floored by my outburst.

She wasn't trying to help me at all...it was as though she wanted me to feel ashamed of how I'd handled the situation and of course I could have handled it better, but at no point did I apply force or hit or swear at DS. I never do.

I burst into tears when I got back home, I was sobbing for myself, DS and I started thinking that the people who witnessed the events must think I'm a fucking monster. I would probably be ashamed to walk down that street again because the fact that this woman thinks I would hurt DS makes me so bloody furious.

I actually asked DS if Mummy had hurt him and he said "No...I was being naughty and I'm sorry for biting you"...I said, please tell me if I hurt you, I'm sorry if I made you feel frightened...he said "I wasn't, I just wanted a treat...but I know I'd been naughty."

I am still so fucking upset. I feel like a shitty shitty Mum.
(sorry it's long)

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Sirzy · 16/10/2011 20:52

Who said they were a replacement for teaching road sense? There is no reason the two can't go hand in hand perfectly well!!

TheBestWitch · 16/10/2011 20:52

You're right it's absolutely not a replacement for teaching road sense. It's a back up for while you're teaching road sense.
DS has walked outside with me since he started walking at 13 months. Very difficult to teach a 13 mo road sense. I could have kept him strapped in his pushchair but I fail to see how that would be better than reins.

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TheBestWitch · 16/10/2011 20:57

Also asking what they would do if they got away without them is like saying what would happen if they unclipped their seatbelt in the car seat or got out of the straps in their pushchair. It's not a reason not to use safety devices imo.

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TheBestWitch · 16/10/2011 21:00

Well I've always held hands and had the reins around my wrist cos they can easily pull away ime. You can't be too careful by roads with toddlers imo. They'd be lucky to survive if a car hit them.
I've got a 4 year old who knows to stop at roads so it doesn't seem to have hindered her road sense. And I used reins with her until around 2 1/2.

TheBestWitch · 16/10/2011 21:01

Do you think that using the harness in a pushchair for a young child is inappropriate parenting?

whatsallthehullaballoo · 16/10/2011 21:03

YANBU -

These things are horrendous and unfortunately you will feel like you have been judged very harshly by strangers. But you will probably forget that this ever happened in a few years time. You know you haven't done anything wrong. You did not hurt or abuse your child in any way.

I hope your finger is ok!

RedHotPokers · 16/10/2011 21:03

PMSL at 'I just held his Hand'.

My DD walked with me holding hands nicely from when she started walking. When DS was born, at 2.5yo, she would walk right next to me holding onto the pushchair and never let go unless I said she could. She would hold my pinky when we crossed the road.

DS on the other hand, since 1.5yo (he is 2.5yo now) has screamed blue murder EVERY time I have held his hand when we are walking. Jelly legs, shouting 'NO HAND', 'ME WALK', 'NO MUMMY NO' the WHOLE time. He wriggles his hand out of mine, so eventually I have to do a kind of pincer grip round his wrist! I still persevere with it, as I am convinced he will crack one day (hopefully). However, I do resort to reins sometimes, when I am fed up of having my eardrums perforated!

skybluepearl · 16/10/2011 21:04

Running inot the road must be a nightmare! It is really hard when kids have melt downs too and it's quite embarracing in public. What to do with a public strop is quite tricky at times - I tend to just do what I do at home still which is time out on any random spot/rewards for good behaviour/withdrawl of favourite toy/telling them no you can't have a sweet but telling them when infact they next CAN have a sweet (ie tomorrow but but only if they behave now)

But I also think it takes ball to intervene when you see something worrying.

I think you need to get hold of a book called toddler taming to help your parenting method. It's a very practical and down to earth book. All that shouting isn't productive in the least and is fact giving lots of attention to negative behaviour

MJlovesscareypants · 16/10/2011 21:07

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Sirzy · 16/10/2011 21:07

MJ - what is inappropriate about keeping a child safe?

BTW DS often prefers his 'bag' on than having to hold my hand, so unless we are by a road we happily do it that way.

He is nearly 2 and quickly learning that at certain places he needs to hold mummies hand, sometimes he tries to break grip and run off - I have the strap on my arm to make sure I can grab him back in seconds.

What exactly is inappropriate about that?

MJlovesscareypants · 16/10/2011 21:10

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Sirzy · 16/10/2011 21:13

Thats a daft comparison it really is.

They aren't leads, they are reigns they are designed to keep young children safe - how can that be a bad thing or inappropriate? I really can't see where you are coming from.

You admit you have been lucky to have children who hold hands so perhaps that is why you cant appreciate just how good they are at keeping young children safe.

TheBestWitch · 16/10/2011 21:14

So when pushing your child next to a road in their pushchair you should use a harness - just not when they're walking. That makes sense Confused

MJlovesscareypants · 16/10/2011 21:15

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Sirzy · 16/10/2011 21:16

But then you said it is "inappropriate" which is judging other parents who do it surely?

TheBestWitch · 16/10/2011 21:18

Of course I just find it a strange logic that you think it's not inappropriate to use a harness in a pushchair by the road but it is inappropriate when the child is walking.

But up to you.

MJlovesscareypants · 16/10/2011 21:18

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TheBestWitch · 16/10/2011 21:19

Yeah cos falling few inches from a pushchair is so much more dangerous than being hit by a car!

MJlovesscareypants · 16/10/2011 21:22

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TheBestWitch · 16/10/2011 21:27

I don't have a problem with it. But I disagree. That's all.

thefirstMrsDeVeerie · 16/10/2011 21:29

i have used an extendable lead on one of mine.

I hate the silly dog/reins thing. Its all in the mind. Its not real.

My children eat biscuits. My dog eats biscuits.
My children have a bed. My dog has a bed
I brush my childrens hair. I brush my dog's hair.
I say NO to my children when they are about to do something they shouldnt.
I say No to my dog blah blah blah.