to want to scratch the cars of ppl in parent / toddler bays with NO kids!!

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And it's ALWAYS old people or business men.

I want to scratch all their cars and kick their tyres!

Taking it all a bit toooo seriously OP

I used to park my 2 seater spots car in the P&T spaces take DC complete with baby child seat into store. I had so much shouting & abuse from people who obviously couldn't compute the idea that women drove 2 seaters with babies on the passenger seat it was almost comic - then I would point to the baby and they would drive off fast muttering! Funily enough it was almost always the mothers of 10+ children who you would have thought didn't really need the extra room.

I would put them in a far corner and then it wouldn't happen. They need the space for the doors to open-they do not need to be near the entrance.

I'm assuming those who have rubbished my opinion also refuse to give up your seat on the bus for pregnant ladies and the elderly, and you probably park in front of other peoples houses too.

Are people not allowed to park in front of other peoples' houses now? When did that happen?

And for the record I would absolutely refuse to give up my seat on the bus for a pregnant woman. Being pregnant is not a disability.

have a and stuff 'em. karma will sort them out for you.

i thought the men who wash your car for money were there to entertain the kids in the car while we do the big shop??

chynah YABU to drive a 2 seater sports car after having a baby, while the rest of us are doomed to spend the next 18yrs driving knackered old people carriers because we have 5 under 4's.

So Op, it's Christmas week and the car park is jammed full-with the exception of one space. The kicker is that it's P&B. Should the space be used by the next car that comes to it or are they supposed to go home (without the turkey!!), so that someone who managed to reproduce can use it?

I was actually in this situation . She couldn't get why I was never going to drive off and let her in by virtue of the fact that she had a four year old in the back seat .

Personally I let the 3 year old drive and park in a wheelchair spot with the engine running, munching a sausage roll and slurping a fruit shoot. Works for me!

It was a youngish (maybe 20 something) blonde with mahoosive sunglasses. She was driving one of those huge black 4x4s with a personalised numberplate

When i was at Uni letting a tyre down was considered the correct reprimand for crap parking, i think if that became commonplace Things May Change :o

My elderly parents park in these spaces at their supermarket. It is closer to the entyrance than the disabled spaces and for my mum that small extra walk makes a difference to her level of pain. She needs it far more than you do.

80'smum I remember that scenario very clearly. And the whole having to fold the buggy on buses and trains, and having to carry the buggy and baby up hundreds of steps when the escalators on the underground had broken down.
lesley33 I quite agree. If an older person needs the space then I think they should take priority.

Kladdkaka And for the record I would absolutely refuse to give up my seat on the bus for a pregnant woman. Being pregnant is not a disability.

Seriously? Being pregnant is not a disability, but it does make it more awkward to stand up on a bus, can come with complications, such as high BP, low BP, SPD, etc. Or just being really tired with carrying extra weight that you're not used to.

My SIL fainted on the tube when no-one gave her a seat. Some of them then stepped over her to get out. But hey, that's ok, because she wasn't disabled.

I am actually stunned and amazed at the replies on this thread!! Those of you who are saying oh yet another parking thread... Did you ever consider that the op doesn't spend half her life on MN and has never come across a parking thread before as I havnt?? I am truly astonished at some of the women who are just giving bitchy answers for the sake of it!!! A simple YABU would of been enough but instead you use it as an excuse to have a go at the OP, I truly think some of you should be ashamed of yourselfs!

To the people that park in those spaces to 'piss people off' are just rude! Like it or not but those spaces are there for a reason FGS get over yourselfs!!)

Ooh..." is being Pregnant a disability and requires privileges" could have more mileage than parking places!

(bored with parking places...)

Blimey, I would offer a heavily pregnant woman a seat, consideration and kindness and all that!

I always say "wow what a beautiful invisible child!".

PMSL at 'you probably park in front of other people's houses too'. Really?? Unless it's a driveway what is your problem? I am thinkiing you are very very idle and probably slightly irritating - actually are you my neighbour??

Am going to join the old crowd - I had my Ds in the 80's, rode the buses with his clunky buggy and bags of shopping and we both survived to tell the tale. Almost feel ashamed to have a car now with DD - don't know I'm born! .

Kladdkaka I was taught in childhood to give up my seat to an (obviously and visibly) pregnant woman and whether she is technically disabled or not does not come into it. It is something the able-bodied and fit (including the non-pregnant women who always outnumber the pregnant except on the bus to the maternity hospital!) should do as a matter of course. Anyone disagree?

Being pregnant is not a disability but then again neither is being elderly necessarily and i was always taught to give up my seat to pensioners. It is good manners to give up your seat to someone who is less able to stand than you are. To me this includes heavily pregnant women, elderly people, small children and probably some other categories that I can't be bothered to think of.

kat2504 spot on.

Nope, wouldn't give it up for any of them either. My need is greater.

Kladdkaka - no-one would expect someone with a disability to give up a seat to a pregnant woman. Of course your need is greater.

However, I do tend to look rather scornfully at young able-bodied businessmen, for example, who shove old ladies or pregnant women out of the way so that they can plonk themselves in the priority seats and spread their legs and their newspapers out in comfort. And I did turf some school kids out of the priority seats the other day after they sat and stared at me (pregnant and almost bent double with a back problem) and an elderly lady with a walking stick. They looked surprised!

As a general rule I find pregnancy fine and don't need to sit down so I decline offers of seats. However I do have a back-problem at the moment and I am recovering from a chest infection and using inhalers regularly so a seat sometimes becomes a bit of a pressing need when my back is in spasm and I am wheezing like someone 3 times my age. I am quite prepared to ask for a priority seat in those circumstances and would be a little taken-aback if anyone without a particular need for the seat refused.

Well presumably you must be disabled then and less able to stand than them if your need is greater. If not that is poor manners. I am not suggesting that disabled people start standing up for able bodied pregnant women. I am just suggesting that we remember how we were brought up to show courtesy to others on public transport.

Kungfu. How do you know the school children/business men havent got health problems which make standing on a moving bus hard? To look at me you would never know that I struggle with it due to my knees.

round here women sit in the middle of the road, indicating, waiting for a m and b space, even where there are tons of empty spaces nearby. making it dangerous for pedestrians to manouvre around their fat 4 x 4 arses.

they should be scrappred really and car parks should be better designed FOR ALL

What is the definition of 'business man'? I am a middle-aged man who wears a suit and tie when I go to my job (teaching maths). Not all men in suits are CEOs of FTSE 100 companies you know. Not sure exactly what your stereotype is adding here.

I don't drive or park in whatever spaces btw.

I used to drive a 2 seater / convert