To wonder how the U.S can claim to be a civilised society whilst there is such a thing as Death Row?

[BupcakesandCunting]

There's probably been threads about this already...

But I just don't see how capital punishment can be an underpin of what the world regards as a civilised, modern society/country. What they did to Troy Davies yesterday can't be reversed. His supporters are still trying to prove his innocence and are confident that the gaping holes that they are finding in the case will prove it. So what will he get? A posthumous pardon? Yeah, great stuff that, America.

What does "Flonce" mean?

It is a shame that the DM chose to print that piece of rubbish because I'd been rather impressed by their coverage of the backlash. Even if they did focus on Kim Kardashian's tweets a bit too much.

Is that what a 12yo Id is?

Thanks for clearing that up! Oh, she's saying that my username is immature, I think. I'll be back in a minute after I've finished crying into my frilly pillow...

The US is a very big country. With very differing rules. and laws amongst states Think what the EU is like now (or maybe more so a few years ago), and not what it will be like in 20 years. Each state does it's own thing. I wish people would learn that before making massive statements about an entire country.

Flonce would make quite a good name for a cake. "I'll have one of the vanilla flonces, please." "Mary-Anne has just finished baking her flonces and it's the moment of truth where she will see if the choux has collapsed on itself."

You don't think the one up there is Holly do you buppers? Come to have her revange?! heh heh

revange? FAIL

revenge BETTER

"Holly has just taken her revange out of the oven. It looks like baking it on a sheet sprayed with water has paid off."

"The Revange Flonce, served with a bitter jus and a side of vitriol, immersed in smuggery coulis"

I luffs it when a thread turns funny

TPP isn;t it supposed to be the case that many states have it but only some use it but dare not repeal?

Although pressure to use it again is always high.

Sancti do you like peaches perchance?

The comparison with war is odd Onager.

In war the deaths are supposed to be to protect and prevent death or harm and c apture is a possibility.

With the death penalty capture ahs already happened, there is not further risk, it is purekly punitive. Who would support an army goinga round shooting people for that reason? If it is found to happen, outrage is the result and rightly so.

Civilians die in wars I know but it's not the intention: in this episode the man had been captured, identified and targeted.

Pinot so much so I married one!

My typing gives me away I gave up hiding that years ago.

Yay! I love guessing namechangers

Revange.

I typo'd on porpoise to lighten the mood lies

It's true that every state in the US has their own laws and penal code, but it is also true that all of them are subject to federal oversight, the US Circuits of Appeal and the Supreme Court. And the Circuits of Appeal, and the Supreme Court (both of them obviously at the national level) have repeatedly upheld capital punishment in the United States. For example, the key Supreme Court decisions upholding capital punishment are Furman v. Georgia, 408 U.S. 238 (1972), and Gregg v. Georgia, 428 U.S. 153 (1976).

States can decide when and where to use the death penalty, but the ability to actually use it has been determined and approved on a federal (national) level.

In other words, troisgarcons does not know the first thing about the legal structure of the US, because if he/she did they would die of embarrassment before saying that capital punishment is a state-driven creation.

oh by the way b&c, does MrM mean anything to you? :)

MrM MrM MrM...

I'm going to need more clues than that!

MrM is possibly MrManager who was here ages ago and was a twat.

But maybe not.