to think that only a pretentious arse would dress his toddler dd in a Ramones t shirt?

[bibbitybobbityhat]

I looked at the Dad.

I looked at his little chubby toddler daughter in her pink Ramones t shirt.

I thought "God you are a twat"

AIBU?

YABU.

It is no worse than dressing them in flowers or khaki or anything at all actually. It's genuinely impossible for how you dress a child too young to have an opinion as anything other than an expression of your taste, you might as well have some bloody fun with it.

Mine has a Dead Kennedy's "Too Drunk to Fuck" T-shirt.

Actually, no she doesn't but I just wanted to join in.

Isn't there something a little ironic about a big multinational producing these t-shirts bedizened with the insignia of counter-cultures past? And the groups and pop-culture movements that were used by yesterday's adolescents to mark and negotiate their ambivalently individual transitions to adulthood being the adornment of children's clothes?

Just saying.

Agree that adults do dress children to symbolically transmit their own ideas and aspirations - until they can argue back. Which can make the onlooker (such as Bibbity) laugh a little. But ... it's also what everyone else does, really. Saw a little girl on the tube the other day dressed in a tweed jacket, polo shirt, tight jeans and ballerinas and was impressed her parent was able to convey so neatly her dreams of a well-dressed child.

YABVVVVVU to remind us that this was a group popular thirty years ago.

Yikes.

That is toooooo bad. I tried bonding with a health professional the other day by telling him that The Only Ones were from Forest Hill. He told my ds that they were a group popular about thirty years ago. My attempts at decorous flirtation died right there in front of me.

Ahh the shit is a hit!! :o

I'm holding my hand up as also hating the usual slogan tshirts for kids. We can't all have the cutey wuteyest wittle bayby in the whole wide world.

Dd2 (5 nearly 6!) picked out a Stones one from H&M HERSELF, because she loved it. But then she's going to be a rock star when she's older. Apparently.

Wouldn't put a toddler in one though, that is quite naff.

Pink? On a toddler?

Apart from that YABU.

DS1 has Ramones ts and Clash Ts. Actually they were his dad's but he has appropriated them. He likes the Ramones and the Clash - but he is 14

I also think there is absolutely no difference in putting your child in a Ramones/Beatles top and a Justin Bieber top, except maybe the child has actually heard of Justin Bieber.

Well mine's heard of the Beatles, knows all their names and some of the songs. I'd put them in Beatles tops if I had them.

The difference is that Justin Bieber needs to be shot.

It is a bit sad, though, as others have pointed out, as in "touched by wistful melancholy".

The T-shirts really say "My parents used to be young, with dreams, and passions. I know you'd never believe it, but it's true."

I think a lot of older people said that about the Ramones etc when they were about. I'm not a Justin Bieber fan , I just think its a bit sad when parents tell children how crap their music is. Reminds me of my mum when she first heard the Housemartins, she was yearning back to the good old days of Boney M

DS(10) had a Doors T-shirt, and DS(8) has a Ramones T-shirt. I don't know who the Ramones are, but I love H&M boys clothes

Hmmm ..but no, Justin Beiber is really really bad.

Even my DD says so. And what DS1 says about him cannot be repeated in civilized company

My 6 year old thinks "he's a bit funny", think she may have hit the nail on the head there JLS on the other hand [eye roll]. My husband is distraught

Oh dear to JLS. DD doesn't actually say she likes them but she gets cross when DS1 tells us all loudly how dreadful they are.

No child of mine will be allowed to know sodding Justin Bieber even exists. Ramones on the other hand...

Have you ordered them yet Bibs?

YANBU.

Was it Anthony Bourdain? (Who I think is probably a bit of a twat but I so would...)

yanbu if it was baby sized.

Kids wearing their parents' old grown up size t shirts ARE the coolest

Ds is 8 and has got a Who t shirt mind you I've never seen them either. And I'm not sure what songs they did tbh. (pretentious? moi?)

Ooh ds just bought his first CD and guess who it was...JLS. I am liking them atch.

they are better than jason dureluralo or whatever he's called. So it's kind of respite iyswim

Yup - I want to know if you've ordered one yet, bibbityboppityhat.

YANBU!

"Can't stand the way some parents try and use their children's clothes to make a statement about themselves."

Surely all clothes do this though?

animula "The T-shirts really say "My parents used to be young, with dreams, and passions. I know you'd never believe it, but it's true.""

So at what point in pregnancy is one supposed to lose the taste for the music one used to like? Yeah, it's more difficult getting to gigs because of babysitting issues, but being a parent doesn't make one automatically an elderly person.

Currently my 3 months old loves the Lemonheads and giggles her little head of whenever she hears them, I might try and find a t-shirt for her. My older one likes NOFX, although I think I need to censor our music for a while to stop her singing along to 'Liza and Louise'...