to think that only a pretentious arse would dress his toddler dd in a Ramones t shirt?

[bibbitybobbityhat]

I looked at the Dad.

I looked at his little chubby toddler daughter in her pink Ramones t shirt.

I thought "God you are a twat"

AIBU?

PumpkinBones ^Agree that all clothes at v. young age are expression of parents taste (although my 5 year old alternates between only wearing a suit, including waistcoat and tie, and only wearing red jeans and black t-shirt, a la Jack White. Very much his OWN taste) - He sounds great!

Ormirian DS2 managed tiger's head and willy combination though. -That's so funny!

southeastastra i also hate boys with long hair because mummy think it looks cool

Maybe it does look cool south and you wouldn't know cool if it bit you on the bum! I actually really love longer hair on boys, so much nicer then all cut so short you can hardly even see what colour it is. Think that's very old fashioned, unneccesary and restrictive for boys. Why CAN'T they have longer hair?! Who the fuck says so and sets the stupid rules?!

LeQueen I'm really, really uncomfortable with the thought of under 11s trying to look cool ...[shudders]

I suspect you are uncomfortable with a lot of things.

Bupcakes: my sisters are desperate for DS1 to have that very style - his hair is too fine though, it doesn't hang right. I wish I could trim his myself, but the one time I attempted it we ended up in the barbers with me lying, "yeah, my friend cut his hair..." while the barbers mocked my "friend's" shocking haircutting skills....

Let's be clear on this: baby Ramones t-shirts will almost certainly be viewed by future generations as their equivalents of Clothkits.

HerRoyalNotness* How do you stop a naturally cool child being cool though?

Good point! My DD dresses herself and for a 5yo does a really good job. She picks unusual things to put together but they work! Freaks me out a bit. She seems to have a natural sense of style in a slightly alternative way! My DS doesn't give a shit about clothes but then he is only 2 (loves his toy story top and superman t-shirt though as he likes the films) but he has naturally cool hair.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows.

Wow. There were a lot of questions in your post to me. I'm not sure where to begin...

Hang on, what about me beginning by saying if you wear the t-shirt of a band you've only ever vaguely heard of and never knowingly been within 10 feet of one their albums, then yes, you are twat

DD (8 weeks old) has a Ramones babygro, given to her by a friend who is a huge punk fan. She also has a Def Leopard t-shirt, a tutu, a pair of blue dungarees with a tractor on it and various silly hats. All given to her by friends who were excited about her arrival. We don't have a lot of money so everything has been gratefully received and worn. I couldn't give a shit if anyone thinks I'm pretentious, as long as she's warm and comfortable.

YABU.

"My DD dresses herself and for a 5yo does a really good job. She picks unusual things to put together but they work! Freaks me out a bit. She seems to have a natural sense of style in a slightly alternative way! "

Is your kid Suri Cruise

This thread is hilarious - all the people bemoaning dressing a kid in a t-shirt, not an extension of the parent, my child has style, so and so's a twat - ARF. Oh the irony!

if you wear the t-shirt of a band you've only ever vaguely heard of and never knowingly been within 10 feet of one their albums, then yes, you are twat

But how do you know from looking?! How do you assess someone's credibility from walking past them in a shop? This all just reminds me of being a teenager and deciding how cool people are, and if they "deserve" to wear the t-shirt of your favourite band.

Animula- you have delighted me so much on this thread that I have submitted your work to Pseud's Corner. I really hope they use it and I nodded along to every word

WGME, I think people are referring to the clothes as a statement. I certainly wasn't meaning that people follow their children around like some sort of fashion designer literally saying, 'what I was trying to convey with this garment was...'

Lequeen, while I agree with many of your sentiments on this thread, I have no sympathy for you. You would never have witnessed all this tutu/welly/messy hair pastiche if you had not been so foolish as to go to Featherdown Farms in this first place. Next time, go to a proper camp site.

Various other posters, I am also shuddering at your talk of coolness in small children, or indeed anyone. You are at risk of raising a generation of hipsters.

The thing is, people who try to convey being cool ie the ones who wear this sort of thing are usually the least cool ime.

Just saying...

I'm a twat then. I'd have dressed mine in a Ramones T shirt. Not because I'm arsed either way whether they are 'cool' but because I love the Ramones.

You are spectacularly missing the point Jins.

If you like the band it's OK to wear the t-shirt

yeah jins

point-misser

Was it Steve Lamacq?

That's me reprimanded then

I still suspect I may be a twat

If you think you may be a twat, Jins, you are most definitely not one.

The reverse is true also

"My DD dresses herself and for a 5yo does a really good job. She picks unusual things to put together but they work! Freaks me out a bit. She seems to have a natural sense of style in a slightly alternative way!"

I'm going to back you up on this one blinkineck - my dd is just the same. She has a natural tomboy, slightly alternative style. She's happiest in skinny jeans, military style jackets, and usually a sword or pirate's hook thrown in for good measure. From an early age she's been in to dressing up in boy's superhero and Star Wars outfits too. In fact she dresses like Shiloh Pitt but without the stylist! I know I probably sound like a nob, but I don't project anything on to her, she just seems to know exactly what she wants to wear!

she's still a point-misser tho