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to think MNHQ should not be deleting posts in this way? WARNING: Ranty

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doublestandard · 10/09/2011 15:39

So, having a post deleted is a MN rite of passage and all that, but I think MNHQ have got a bit trigger happy with the delete button of late but not in a good way. And yes this is a bit thread about a thread but I think it's a general problem and worth discussing.

As an example, I have recently had a post from AIBU deleted because I said the manner in which a poster had disregarded others opinions was "flaming arrogant" and that "You have come across on this thread as a self-important, judgey know-it-all". Apparently this constitutes a personal attack?? Since when have we not been allowed to say that a specific post on a thread suggests arrogance? Or that a poster is coming across in a certain way? It is not saying the poster is arrogant or a self-important, judgey know-it-all but that is how they are being perceived.

Now ordinarily I'd shrug this off but I'm seeing more and more posters crying "personal attack!" when disagreed with and then having posts that seem to me to be quite reasonable deleted. I am also baffled that MNHQ have decided that it is not a personal attack to leave up comments by another poster stating that I condone child abuse (I mean what the actual fuck?!) when I have said nothing of the kind and because my post above is deleted people can't make up their own minds. Either delete both or delete neither surely?

I think most people on MN employ an attack the posts, not the poster as a rule. Yes, it is a bit more blunt on AIBU than relationships or behaviour and development for example, and I think that's right, but I find the nannying attitude and selective decisions not to be in the spirit of MN.

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Disclaimers

I have namechanged because I don't want to draw any more attention to the thread where MNHQ sees fit to allow a post to stand that falsely states I support the abuse of children. I suspect a few people may recognise me and/or the thread so I'd prefer not to be outed thanks.

In the interests of fairness there was another part of my post that MNHQ felt could be interpreted as "giving the finger". It was actually nothing of the kind - it was a reference to being part of a particular organisation and then a flounce - but I can see how someone might have interpreted it as that even if I don't agree. Fair enough to decide to take it down, but why leave up a libellous post stating a poster condones child abuse when the orginal post is not there to be judged? Confused

I have raised this with MNHQ and the second paragraph draws on their email response.

OP posts:
Tota1Xaos · 10/09/2011 19:09

Have no clue what threads the OP is referring to,but in principle I agree. Some relatively harmless posts get deleted where other unpleasanter stuff gets left (in the case of SN related matters it gets deemed educational or not offensive). A number of parents of SN children don't feel comfortable posting on MN anymore.

LeBOF · 10/09/2011 19:12
Shock

I think Trills just implied you were all stuck up cunts!

OracleInaCoracle · 10/09/2011 19:13

The thrteads in the wrong place botherts me. It bothers me because we have topics for a reason and are able to hide topics for a reason. I hide birth announcements for personal reasons, so seeing an "aibu to tell you I had a baby yesterday" irritates the fuck out of me. Aibu also takes repliers away from posters who use the right topic. It also reeks of "my post is so important it needs higher traffic" and aibu isn't a forum, it is a topic for debates/rants (fwiw, I think this thread is in the right place) but all those who say it doesn't matter, start an antenatal thread is S&B. After all, it doesn't matter.

OracleInaCoracle · 10/09/2011 19:13

The thrteads in the wrong place botherts me. It bothers me because we have topics for a reason and are able to hide topics for a reason. I hide birth announcements for personal reasons, so seeing an "aibu to tell you I had a baby yesterday" irritates the fuck out of me. Aibu also takes repliers away from posters who use the right topic. It also reeks of "my post is so important it needs higher traffic" and aibu isn't a forum, it is a topic for debates/rants (fwiw, I think this thread is in the right place) but all those who say it doesn't matter, start an antenatal thread is S&B. After all, it doesn't matter.

happymole · 10/09/2011 19:17

ǝɯ sǝsɐǝןd ʇı ʇɐɥʇ spunoɹƃ ǝɥʇ uo 'uʍop ǝpısdn pǝuɹnʇ ǝq pןnoɥs sʇsod pǝʇɹodǝɹ ןןɐ ʞuıɥʇ ı

happymole · 10/09/2011 19:17

Ohhh I broke it

HallnotOates · 10/09/2011 19:18

i called a poster a weirdo

twas deleted

now htat is nuts

moronicatatonic · 10/09/2011 19:20

My point about posters who lack empathy is that it means there will be contention about what is offensive and hurtful, and what is perfectly inoffensive and acceptable.

LeBOF · 10/09/2011 19:38

Topic
Appropriate
Monitors
Promoting
Overlooked
Non-sexy
Subjects

is actually what it stands for. Practically a manifesto.

Tee2072 · 10/09/2011 20:09

That's actually a bit...sad, BoF. And vair vair silly.

Hullygully · 10/09/2011 20:45

whay the fucking fuck is th epoint?

Let everyone say whatever the fuck they fucking want to and let everyone fucking else make up their own fucking minds.

Why have external decisions as to what does and doesn't constitute a "personal attack?"

It'll end up terribly vanilla anyway as most people are sheep.

Let them do th ework for you mnhq

TrillianAstra · 10/09/2011 20:50

I didn't come up with the acronymn...

I have cronies

and henchmen

and all sorts

Honeydragon · 10/09/2011 20:56

Rock the muthafuckin post fucker!

I agree with Hully

I do think some posts have been deleted for a personal attack mucho wrongly. Especially as the complainant then twists what the original comment said to any new posters on the thread, causing bunfights in the cupcake corral. Either edit or hit the button a lot less than you have done of late.

FWIW I had a thread last year where I was called a troll and other unsavoury items ..... hindsight has shown that it may have been one poster and sock puppetry. But I got personally attacked, they attacks weren't deleted as they weren't reported, and guess what? I'm still posting and still buying crap on here. However if we keep deleting daft posts that should stand as they are I'll probably post less for fear of having someone who disagrees with me report me.

Hullygully · 10/09/2011 20:58

Everyone agrees with me in the end

they can't help it

Hullygully · 10/09/2011 20:58

because I am always right and the voice of reason so sadly lacking in these, our fairlyland times

Honeydragon · 10/09/2011 20:58

Trills

You have a bunch of numpties Grin

whilst I am more than happy to support your cause I am not shouting TAMPON, it's not Mnet. Re-figure the acronym to MOONCUP and I'll reconsider.

OracleInaCoracle · 10/09/2011 21:07

Make
Observations
Oppose
Numpties
Correct
Unruly
Postings

TrillianAstra · 10/09/2011 21:08

:O

Honeydragon · 10/09/2011 21:09

I'm warming to it....

Tee2072 · 10/09/2011 21:09

Very good, Lissie! And it only posted once!

Tee2072 · 10/09/2011 21:09

So...Tillian has minions...how do I get minions?

moronicatatonic · 10/09/2011 21:09

Rather good, lissielou.

Tee2072 · 10/09/2011 21:09

Oops, Trillian

moronicatatonic · 10/09/2011 21:10

You get them if you wear ill-fitting shoes.

OracleInaCoracle · 10/09/2011 21:12
Blush