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to think MNHQ should not be deleting posts in this way? WARNING: Ranty

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doublestandard · 10/09/2011 15:39

So, having a post deleted is a MN rite of passage and all that, but I think MNHQ have got a bit trigger happy with the delete button of late but not in a good way. And yes this is a bit thread about a thread but I think it's a general problem and worth discussing.

As an example, I have recently had a post from AIBU deleted because I said the manner in which a poster had disregarded others opinions was "flaming arrogant" and that "You have come across on this thread as a self-important, judgey know-it-all". Apparently this constitutes a personal attack?? Since when have we not been allowed to say that a specific post on a thread suggests arrogance? Or that a poster is coming across in a certain way? It is not saying the poster is arrogant or a self-important, judgey know-it-all but that is how they are being perceived.

Now ordinarily I'd shrug this off but I'm seeing more and more posters crying "personal attack!" when disagreed with and then having posts that seem to me to be quite reasonable deleted. I am also baffled that MNHQ have decided that it is not a personal attack to leave up comments by another poster stating that I condone child abuse (I mean what the actual fuck?!) when I have said nothing of the kind and because my post above is deleted people can't make up their own minds. Either delete both or delete neither surely?

I think most people on MN employ an attack the posts, not the poster as a rule. Yes, it is a bit more blunt on AIBU than relationships or behaviour and development for example, and I think that's right, but I find the nannying attitude and selective decisions not to be in the spirit of MN.

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Disclaimers

I have namechanged because I don't want to draw any more attention to the thread where MNHQ sees fit to allow a post to stand that falsely states I support the abuse of children. I suspect a few people may recognise me and/or the thread so I'd prefer not to be outed thanks.

In the interests of fairness there was another part of my post that MNHQ felt could be interpreted as "giving the finger". It was actually nothing of the kind - it was a reference to being part of a particular organisation and then a flounce - but I can see how someone might have interpreted it as that even if I don't agree. Fair enough to decide to take it down, but why leave up a libellous post stating a poster condones child abuse when the orginal post is not there to be judged? Confused

I have raised this with MNHQ and the second paragraph draws on their email response.

OliviaMumsnet · 10/09/2011 16:30

OliviaMumsnet · 10/09/2011 17:00

Right you orrible lot, I have just burnt my cakes because I was reading this.
I am very cross now.
I will come back in a minute when I have found the gin calmed down a bit.

OliviaMumsnet · 10/09/2011 17:06

CoolWhip said she'd never been deleted.
Thought I'd make her day
Grin

OliviaMumsnet · 10/09/2011 17:11

Ooh i would quite like a deletion quota!

OliviaMumsnet · 10/09/2011 17:29

Right, enough deletions silliness.

This is a thread about a thread and so really ought to be deleted anyway. HmmGrin

However, to answer the OPs query (and we have mailed her again about this): there was a personal attack in her post which meant that it couldn't remain as it was.

Now, I have only just come back from maternity leave so I'm not sure I'm equipped to comment on recent relative trigger-happiness as I've been watching daytime telly for 10 months.

What I can tell you that our aim is always to allow the conversation to flow but within the (whispers in case Lissielou is listening) talk guidelines of not allowing posters to attack each other.

We read every report that comes in and make a call on it based on the context of the thread.
And we are the first to hold our hands up when we don't.
For the record we are not getting tickers.
Hope this clears things up
MNTowers

OliviaMumsnet · 10/09/2011 17:48

@SuePurblybilt

Olivia Mumsnet? Did you MN on your maternity leave? Under a name change?
don't you? Grin

HelenMumsnet · 10/09/2011 18:19

@SuePurblybilt

I too am convinced Olivia and Helen MNHQ Walk Amongst Us Grin. Look for the most foul-mouthed on the XF threads and ye shall find them. Or Strickly, I can see them slagging sequins on the Strickly threads too.

Olivia, we're rumbled

OliviaMumsnet · 10/09/2011 23:03

Message deleted by Mumsnet
Grin

OliviaMumsnet · 10/09/2011 23:36

2Shoes - i did just miss Peachy's postBlush
It is late, I got carried away pissing about with the delete button and I've been up since stupid oclock with DS2.
Sorry.

We certainly don't want people to leave over things like this.
Thanks for your thoughts all
MN Towers

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