to think smokers should be made to smoke away from people?

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I've always been quite anti smoking had a gran who dies of lung cancer, but since I was pregnant with DD and now that I'm out and about with her it really angers me when people are smoking in public areas, if it were up to me I'd ban smoking in all public places ie high streets, door ways to, restaurants, childrens play areas etc and don't even get me started on the bit outside the hospital and make people smoke in smoking rooms or back streets. I got abuse from a woman the other day who came over to speak to DD and puffed her smoke all over her when I asked her not to.

There is a Wetherspoons near us where you frequently have to navigate past four or five smokers blocking the only doorway, despite the notice 'You are not allowed to smoke in this doorway'. The smoke blows directly into the pub.

There is a smoker's garden about ten paces away.

It's just laziness.

Op- not a chance any further bans will happen. Smokers all know the habit smells rank and unattractive which is why they do it in the fresh air. They don't want to stink their own home out. Odd really (not to mention expensive and bad for health)to keep doing it but there you go!

YABU. Smokers smoke OUTSIDE. You know - where there are loads of cars for starters. Oh and it is the OUTSIDE.

I'm not a selfish smoker at all. I don't smoke near non-smokers, or babies, or pregnant women. I wasn't upset by the smoking ban, because I understood why/how it came to pass.

However - I will smoke in the street, or in a park, or up a mountain, if I so choose. It's my right, you see.

Odd really (not to mention expensive and bad for health)to keep doing it but there you go!

Like so many things people enjoy I suppose

Are you allowed to open a smokers only establishment.
Like a private members club where smoking is compulsory?

And anyone else has to drink/eat outside.

I would join this club.

I didn't mean everywhere outside just places which people have no choice but to go through or where people congregate such as door ways to shops and restaurants and outdoor seating areas.

Sorry, what's wrong with smoking in an outdoor seating area? Or would you like us all to stand up as penance?

Why op? Where ever they go there will be SOMEONE around

Yes and they should ban buses too, the fumes are vile

'YABU. Smokers smoke OUTSIDE. You know - where there are loads of cars for starters. Oh and it is the OUTSIDE.'

So was our pub lunch on Sunday, but the next table couldnt wait until we'd finished before lighting up. They simply didnt give a damn.

Cars have a use. Smokers dont.

Outdoor seating areas are outside...you don't have to sit near the smokers.

You can't have it all your own way.

Doorways, maybe you have a point.

YANBU, i bloody HATE the stink of smoke.

YANBU, at our local supermarket they have those waste of money rides that my DS loves, the ride on Thomas and such like. However, I can't let him go on often as this seems to be the gathering point for all of the smokers leaving the store and the cloud of smoke is not what I want him sitting in.

Why are three pubs a day closing down in Britain? Where are all the non smokers who refused to frequent 'smokey' pubs?

I have friends who have used this excuse for years - the pubs are now smoke free - just be honest, you don't use them and for years have used smokers as the excuse.

The smokers are all outside.

It always makes me laugh how when someone posts to say they're over weight, certain people will sympathise and say "Aww you poor thing, food in an adickshuuun"

Post to say you're a smoker and it's "Bugger off you smelly, selfish wanker"

For now anyway, Suncottage. I'm sure it won't be long before the anti smoking brigade find a way to isolate us all from polite society

'You can't have it all your own way.'

Smoking is anti-social and if you havent got the message yet, most of us do not like it. This isnt about fairness.

And who decides what is and is not anti-social, lassylass?

Someone causing trouble in the street, stealing, mugging, shouting, violence - they're all antisocial according to moral law. But smoking is just something that people have decided to make antisocial, because they just don't like it.

My mum always used to say that it was bad manners to eat in the street. Perhaps it should be made illegal.

Abbey

Yep - I had a friend who refused to join us for a drink one evening because the pub garden was full of smokers and she couldn't sit out there.

It was a rainy November evening

I am an ex smoker and I find the smokers circle the best place to be at all parties

"YANBU but dont expect smokers to support you."

Don't smoke, never have and I think it's a disgusting habit. Can't stand the smell of it.
Still think the op is completely unreasonable and that the compromise reached by the smoking ban is a very fair balancing of everyones rights. There's millions of things which I detest or consider rude which come as part and parcel of living in a soceity, doesn't mean I think they should be banned because of my personal preferences.
Don't see how someone who wants to smoke outside is anymore selfish than someone who thinks nobody should be able to smoke in a public place because they don't like it. Both are arguing in their own self-interest.

I would like to know what damage is actually done to us ,if we happen to stand behind a smoker or walk past one.

In the grand scheme of things probably not much.

If someone lights up at a bus stop ,I move.

Growing up in the 70's I had smoke blown all over me ... not great , but what we have to deal with these days is IMO quite minor.

I don't know why some people like to smoke ,I don't know their stories. I try not to judge.

It IS digusting, I hate walking behind/down wind from someone smoking and make sure I move away from the smoke pretty sharpish.. but it's not as if you can force people to not smoke in open spaces for health reasons. I'd say car fumes etc are equally as bad for you in open areas.