to laugh at david cameron?

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He has only been in government about 1 year, the economy has flatlined and already there are riots and looting in the streets! He doesnt listen, and just gets everything so wrong!

It would be absolutely hilarious, if only the consequences weren't so tragic.

But I need a good laugh, so AIBU?

THC that's not even true now with the ATOS plan is it?

DLA forms are hard and get checked. That's why a lot of DWP fraud is picked up in comparison with other frauds that are less easy to detect. I know someone currently wanted by Interpol (ggod coampny I keep, ex of a schoolfriend) who has been convicted of every fraud going, but they never even picked up that he was claiming HB by letting a house out to a family member under a false name until he was dobbed in. People trafficking they could prove, HB not.

Catapult - are you suggesting that DLA benefit fraud is rendered impossible or non-existent by a 16 page form? Interesting idea.

Peachy - did you know he was defrauding HB?

Nob end. I hope he went to jail.

I see only evidence that the right loathe the people who feed off sympathy for them to rip off the taxpayer.

You know what Blueberries So fecking what if I get sympathy which trnaslates as DlA

No Blueberries that is not what I am saying if you read the post properley not just what you picked out

.DlA involes having to provide supporting evidence from proffesionals and not meaning GP either .People get DlA mixed up with incapcity benefit

BLueberries becuase of the insults I get on here that emans I rarely post now

Because of my BIL who said in front of my sons that the state can't affoed benefits bastards and they would be better off dead

Becuase as a decent human I feel accused every time DC etc wax lyrical about benefits claimants and deficits: they never place cavetas on it about people who paid NI for years, or have no other option or anything else.

Occasionally we get a patronising pat on the head and called poor carers, but if people gave a damn we'd have some services left and whilst I know the CA of £55 a week can;t be raised ATM they still could have at elast been apologetic about the £200pcm planned cut to disability tax credits for children: I have a letter from Maria Miller: it basically says get used to it I don't care and you have enough time to sort it.

Only if I can find a cure, dear.

I had a page on my form filled out by a Spinal nurse Stamped etc .Did they award it ,no they wrote to my Specialist to confirm it .Though I did enjoy the part when he wrote What part of wheelchair bound do you not understand .When it came to moblity

Blue- no. In fact I dobbed him in for what I knew was happening and called SSD on my friend when I was worried about her kids.

I didn't see her for years more as I did not want to be involved until she divorced him, she did now I see her and occasionally her lovely new fiance when I can. It took the police eyars to set up stings to catch him: a friend wenta round every bank in town and told them about him as he was taking out loands in his wife's name (wife was ill with anorexia and weighing 5st, hardly able to care for herself), When thec aught him it was a big case involving my friend going into witness protection. He got out in a year and went missing, is now wanted for breech of parole and last seen somewhere in Asia I am led to beleive though it can be hard to piece together.

If your intention is to make out I am some kind of cover up merchant forget it: I am a Quaker (albeit non meeting attedning for obvious reasons) who believes totally in the law and panics if I find 1p too much in change. I am too far the otehr way, in that irritating unintentionally sanctimonious manner sadly.

I haven't insulted you Peachy and tbh I haven't seen any on this thread, though I haven't read it all.

I don't see why you need to take it personally if you're not defrauding benefits. Mn is full of people who think everything is targeted at them. Well I'm not like that. Fine - I'm certain you aren't, or catapult. It doesn't mean there's nobody like that. You know that Peachy.

Get pissed off with your friend for giving claimants a bad name.

Good on you - I'm sure that isn't an easy thing to do. Good on you.

I know enough of HRCs condition to not know whether to laugh or cry at her last post!

DS1's applciation was held up by 6 weeks as they sent teh letter out at the beginning of the summer hols, to his school. The Paediatrician wrote too.

Beucase people jump on the bandwagon and seem to think that DLA?CArers are defrauding scroungers .lazy workshy

It's not my aim to do anything - it was a question. I appreciate that you answered it actually.

anyway

back to dave and how he is a prick

except you know we were just establishing that he isn't and that Labour were pretty crap and left the next goverment in the shitola

hth

Erm sorry he did the poor me I know what its like to hve disabled child and well not going to deny the pain he must have felt with his son being disabled and then dying

But the finacial hardships he did not have a fecking clue and does not give a shite

Lets lol at his HB cuts and how people will be forced out of homes and then rehoused in places that are more expensive than the HB was in the first place.That is before we get to the cost mentally and socially to familys affected

Blue No you ahve not, but I am not sure you have been here long: I am an oldie of teh oldest order who rarely posts here any more for the reason of insults.

My friend did not give claimants a bad name- in fact she is now working. Her evil bstard of an exh did, I am only sad he was not arrested in Thailand where he used to live, I doubt he'd ahve excaped that- however despite the uncharacteristic bile i am proivvy to aspects of hsi case that never got to court but i doubt am allowed to reveal on here: suffice it to say he is as close to evil as I beleive exists.

And yes I know that tehre are fraudtsers out there, I worked for a well known parenting charity for a while, within thier homes and with some of the poorest in society. very few were nt aboce board or we'd ahve not touched them but you got to spend some time on teh estates and well- yes fraud exists.

I think it is over played in number.

And Do you know what gets to me?

When people talk about frausters as if theya re in anyway related to the disabled. See, if the frausters were then they'd not be fraudsters would they? by definition the frausters are NT. I hugely resent having them linked to me, my boys, HC etc. They are in no way part of my world. they are no more linked to me than if I said a fraudter uses your bank tehrefopre you are a fraudster.

or indeed, your bank (my bank in fact) trades in arms therefore you are a violent murderer.

It just does not wash.

And as for the targeted at us- MNHQ actually encourages us to defend the nature fo DLA and explain and educate on here: they ask us to. p[ersonal stories do that most effectively.

Freybean

He is a wanker

Sis also accused Dh of having no job on FB on a thread with my friends to try adn shame us: Dh then linked to his business website LMAO, as the young peopel say epic fail

Apaprently I borrowed her shoes and dresses a lot when I was a kid and she won't forgive me. Seriously. I just avoid now, no point.

I don't link them to you or any disabled person - but when disabled campaigners deny it's a problem they make the link themselves. Now that's something I'll never understand.

I also notice we still aren't talking about any of the other issues raised. Whoever brought up DLA really didn't want to discuss Labour's shocking and irresponsible legacy.

I always wonder if those who slam DLA know how difficult it is to get?

have you got a link to that please blueberties
peachy you're sil sounds like a nob

sorry sister

THC there was a programme about the HB cuts on Radio 4 the other day.

They said the rises in concil house rents would not affect those on HB but would push a lot of working low income people just out of the HB bracket into arrears and then into homeless accomodation which costs the state loads.

The policy will cost a fortune but in ways spread out so it is ahrd to see: push carer from cared for so SD has to pick up cost: pusj low income workers away from their work so tehyc annot afford to do the job any mroe- there were two stories I read, an interesting justaposition, about cuts to HB for those living in inner Bristol pushing essential low paid workers out of the area- and an end to night buses in Bristol. I wonder who is supposed to do the late night care shifts now, the cleaning, the pub shifts?

People forced away from families who help with childcare and therefore unable to work. get a childminder / nursery? Around here there's a 6 mnth wait (only nt kids accepted) and no shift cover at all, how many low income workers actually do 8 - 6 days I wonder? 12 hour 4on 4off more common lcoally, or those shifts where you do a run of earlies 6 - 2 or lates 2 - 10: notexactly going to help single aprents or thsoe married to carers the sick or disabled into work is it?

I am all for making those who can work do so (when there are enough jobs)- this seems to take away people's opportunities. Which is dumb.

Where nobody works or ahs done for a long time (we all know the redundancy rates these days) and nobody has a disability or illness or caring role, well maybe there's no reason for them to stay where they are, but non eof this is allowed for: it's totally unsubtle, and will cause misery and a reduction in life chances.

Also they are renting amss amounts of B&B accom for teh predicted homeless famillies: will there be enough services in those areas (Maraget etc IIRC) to cope? GP places, social service respite workers, school places, elderly care workers? Will the hospital waiting lists rise cope? of course not.

I think the stat is that 80% of people who claim HB are not unemployed (ie only 20% unemployed). that emans a hell of a lot of sick, disabled, carers and elderly people redistributed in some social experiemnt that will cost £££££££ more to the state, it is naive beyond measure.

Yes we've had that bit.

MN asked you to defend DLA?

Really? Or are you talking that up. Is that more a case of complaints and reports of posts being made, and MN saying - well we're not going to delete, just defend it on the boards.

oo so when DC denys cutting HB will infact cost more money .He is infact linking to the fact that it will cost more

Peachy the last post was to the other person not you.

Re : your last post. What a lot of social housing Labour could have built with its wasted billions.