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Original poster

In thinking the recent events are show that some parents should have their children removed at birth simply for being scum ?

124 replies

SatansLittleHelper · 09/08/2011 23:42

There are children out on the strets, 8/9/10/11 years old out on the streets looting and firebombing properties. Where the hell are their parents ? Has anybody ever given a shit about them ?

I am sick to death of scummy fuckwits who pop out one kid after another, they don't teach them morals or empathy these kids are dragged up, they have no chance. I really wouldn't be surprised if some of them have been sent out with 'shopping lists' because after all, we all need a 50 inch plasma.

I really do think that people who aren't capable of being decent human beings should have the right to raise children taken away from them.

Rant over.

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GypsyMoth · 09/08/2011 23:45

it only becomes apparent when they hit their pre teens/teens though.......who would want to adopt these kids then?

Strawbezza · 09/08/2011 23:50

These kids out rioting aren't wanted, they aren't loved or cared for.

Instead of rewarding parents with more benefits for more children, the welfare system should give a £3000 bonus for every year that a benefit claimant (male or female) doesn't have a baby.

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SatansLittleHelper · 09/08/2011 23:50

They should be removed before the damage is done.

And I hope the pictures of these kids will be passed around schools and the parents punished accordingly.

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FernandoBanjo · 09/08/2011 23:54

Just sterilise people who claim benefits. That would sort it wouldn't it? Hmm

marriedinwhite · 09/08/2011 23:54

Some of these children are brought into terrible situations. A lump came to my throat earlier today when I opened the paper (Daily Telegraph) and saw a picture of a little black boy of about 9 or 10 triumphantly holding up a basket of groceries looted from Tescos. That wasn't about materialism - that was about a little boy who thought he had done something helpful amongst this chaos and within his dysfunctional and probably bloody awful world. Of course the current situation is wrong as absolutely wrong as that little boy's life.

Birdsgottafly · 09/08/2011 23:56

When this is over, it would be good to have a factual report commissioned ,giving the figures and statisics of those arrested, to promote change, if it proves to be needed.

ChaosTrulyReigns · 09/08/2011 23:56

What?

Who is capable and worthy of raising a child can be determined by a checklist?

BimboNo5 · 09/08/2011 23:56

As much as I disagree with this kind of statement id have to agree. My place of work was surrounded by the scumbags, a hospital with kids on life support, with cancer, terrible head injuries etc. All the parents needed was those lowlifes outside rioting to worry about.

Strawbezza · 09/08/2011 23:57

There's a lot wrong with a society in which a poorly-qualified 16-year-old's best career option is to have a baby.

GypsyMoth · 09/08/2011 23:58

strawbezza....assuming they are on benefits are you??Hmm how about a LOW WAGE>>

pixielicious · 10/08/2011 00:01

How exactly would you determine at the birth of a child whether or not its parents were "scum", SatansLittleHelper? Hmm

debivamp · 10/08/2011 00:01

my beloved DH has always said that everyone should be sterilised and you can only be un sterilised if you pass a personality and IQ test. some rich parents are just as bad.

DuelingFanjo · 10/08/2011 00:02

there but for the grace of...

Nihilisticbunny · 10/08/2011 00:03

Yes lets do that, maybe put contraceptives into the water of certain areas, maybe take away children from parents with less than 10 grand in the bank at birth. Or you could have tests which determine your character at 28 weeks pregnant, if you fail, bye bye baby, off to someone worthy. Hmm.

Birdsgottafly · 10/08/2011 00:03

Chaos-if that was at me, i meant curfews and designated areas so at all times (not just during riots etc) DC's can be returned to their parents and it can be checked that the parents are at home.

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SatansLittleHelper · 10/08/2011 00:04

It has fuck all to do with being on benefits or a low wage....... it's to do with non law abiding scum raising children to be non law abiding scum.

Don't try to turn this into a benefit claiments debate ffs, many people on benefits do a good job......myself included.

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caramelwaffle · 10/08/2011 00:07

Scum like Charlie Gilmours parents perhaps.... Hmm

Birdsgottafly · 10/08/2011 00:12

I beleive that some of the violence has been highly organised, you cannot group everyone there together.

QuintessentialShadow · 10/08/2011 00:13

People are too scared to point fingers, speak the truth, and be politically incorrect.

marriedinwhite · 10/08/2011 00:14

Yes Birds one wonders what organised crime and drug deals have happened "behind the scenes" and orchestrated by those behind the gangs, whilst the police have been otherwise occupied. Hmm

lachesis · 10/08/2011 00:17

What about Bullingdon Club members? Getting drunk and destroying someone's property is pretty scummy, even if you leave a wad of cash behind.

Let's just put everyone on mandatory contraceptive until they pass their parenting license test, that'll sort out the wheat from the chaff.

Kladdkaka · 10/08/2011 00:19

People really want to give the state control over procreation? Hmm

Birdsgottafly · 10/08/2011 00:20

I was walking my dog tonight and there was a lot of movement in expensive 4x4's, vans, etc that are not usually about. I have a good idea of what goes on in and around my area (very rough) and things were very unusual. The 'lads' are indoors but there has been trouble at the Tesco's up the road, this hasn't come from anyone local. Wouldn't surprise me if there has been a big movement of drugs and guns while the smokescreen happens.

lachesis · 10/08/2011 00:20

Only the really ignorant ones, Klad.

LineRunner · 10/08/2011 00:21

Well this is useful.