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to not like the term step-mum/dad when the person has not brought up the child/ren

244 replies

springydaffs · 11/07/2011 10:04

I don't like ex's wife being called my children's step-mother. She isn't their 'mother', step or otherwise, she is their dad's wife. If she had brought them up, either because their father got custody or I was dead, then she should be called their step-mother, but not if all she did was marry their dad. Similarly, I don't expect my future husband to be called their step-father - 'mum's husband' is sufficient, hardly a mouthful.

OP posts:
tigitigi · 11/07/2011 18:06

bemybabe I am so so so sorry for your loss.

I think people get very het up over titles surely it matters very little. My dear mother died 4 years ago and my father is getting married again soon so I will have a step mum and my children a step granny. We don't worry about titles between ourselves as such because my family are all first names. i'm not a mum i'm tigitigi, my DH is daddy. My mother died before my kids knew her - they call her by her first name and know she is their granny. They call my future step-mother by her name and they know she is their grandad's wife (or will be).

A title means nothing it is the emotion behind it that matters. OP I think you are being very unreasonable. Bemybabe, i'm not sure what your step kids call you or how they cateogorise you but if you had a good relationship with them thats all that matters.

nokissymum · 11/07/2011 18:06

I met my dad's wife when i was 30! and married, my mil constantly refers to her as my SM! I find this very irritating as there is no mother daughter relationship whatsoever. As far as i am concerned she is my father's wife, i dont see how she can be called my SM simply by being married to my dad.

I strongly believe there HAS to be some relationship between the two of you wether it be taking care of you every so often etc to warrant that title.

tigitigi · 11/07/2011 18:08

I should add that my kids adore their step granny and I am very fond of her.

Andrewofgg · 11/07/2011 18:29

YABU. My mother met her second when I was twenty (and my father dead) so he was in no way a father figure, much as I came to love him; but "stepfather" was a convenient way of referring to him, no more no less.

SortingHardHat · 11/07/2011 18:33

bemybebe my heartfelt sympathies for your loss

exoticfruits · 11/07/2011 18:34

So sorry bemybabe-this is why it is all wrong, the relationship is completely up to the step parent and DCs and the term used is unimportant-every family is different. I think that a mother ought to be thrilled if her DCs have a good relationship with a step parent who loves them-surely that is better than them being tolerated or ignored or resented?

swallowedAfly · 11/07/2011 19:48

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Fontsnob · 11/07/2011 20:06

Swallowedafly, I find your views insulting and ignorant.

houseelfheave · 11/07/2011 20:29

I can't get my head around some of what you've written SAF, really. Over the years I've spent a lot of time with my DSD with the two of us doing things together, alone. She spends time with my family, we spend time as a family and at no point has her mum had a problem with this.

Its not about "playing mummy" - I have no interest in pretending she's mine. However, I'm very interested in making sure that a child, whether with her mum and step dad or with her dad and step mum, feels loved and secure. I'd feel more of a cow if I didn't treat her the same as my own DCs when she was around.

If DSD wasn't interested in having a relationship with me or her mum was so insecure as to see me as a threat, I'm sure it would be different, but thankfully we're all a bit better than that and DSD has two secure homes as a result of it.

Fontsnob · 11/07/2011 20:34

So much better put than I am currently capable of houseelfheave!

Pandemoniaa · 11/07/2011 20:37

I don't know what your problem is SAF but certainly, you've spouted some insulting guff as a result of it. "Trying to play mummy" indeed! Clearly you have absolutely no knowledge of being a step-parent, or at least a happy one.

I can assure you that I've never "played mummy" to my stepchildren. They have a mother of their own. Likewise, my dp does not "play daddy" to my dcs since they have a father of their own. Neither "real" parent having a problem with how our extended family works. We do, however, feel blessed that between us we have 5 lovely grown-up children who enrich our lives.

exoticfruits · 11/07/2011 22:04

Experience swallowedafly-if I love a man I'm not going to be put into a compartment and not be allowed to make my own relationship with the people he loves most. I would expect to get to know his DCs and if they don't want to know me I don't wish to be part of it. Once you have DCs you are a package. My DH got my DS-it is a question of 'love me, love my DS'.

I don't mean that I wish to be mother or 'rights' but I am not going to be dismissed as 'father's wife' as if I can be shoved in a cupboard and not be part of their joint life and am nothing to the DCs.

Why could the natural mother possibly not want their DCs to be loved-other than selfishness? It doesn't make sense that they should have a father who has a new partner who is indifferent.

exoticfruits · 11/07/2011 22:06

Children are not pawns and shouldn't be used as such. Being loved by a wide variety of people can only be good for them.

chicletteeth · 11/07/2011 22:07

Has the OP been back at all?

LDNmummy · 11/07/2011 22:33

YANBU OP. DH and I both have parents who have divorced and re-married and we don't call their spouses mum or dad so it wouldn't make sense for them to be titled step mum or step dad. I say uncle or aunty as does DH.

If the spouse does play a big part in the children's lives however, then I don't think there is anything wrong with the title being used.

LDNmummy · 11/07/2011 22:36

Oh and we respect and love our parents' chosen life partners. We consider them grandparents in their own capacity to our soon to be here DC, but our relationships with them are different.

Each to their own I suppose.

exoticfruits · 11/07/2011 22:37

Surely you wouldn't use it unless you were explaining to someone as in 'this is my step mother'? I wouldn't call them anything other than their first name-they are not an aunt or uncle. My DS calls my DH by his first name, he will just say 'my step father' to those who don't know the relationship.

exoticfruits · 11/07/2011 22:39

The relationship will be different, especially if they are older, but there is no reason why it can't be close and friendly and it has nothing whatever to do with the other parent.

AlabamaWorley · 11/07/2011 22:39

If the kids are adults.bthenyes, YANBU. I agree with you. Both my and DH's parents remarried (mine when I was almost 30).Sometimes, I refer to my Mum's husband as Step-Dad only cos I can't be bothered with the back story. However, just after my Dad got remarried he expected me to call his wife "Mum"?!?! Not even Step-Mum! I explained that I already had a Mum.

I think it is down to the kids with re-married parents to decide on what to call them.

Kewcumber · 11/07/2011 22:40

Mostly the children will setlling on calling their paretns partners something they feel comfortable with. It won;t be your choice in teh end but theirs. Technically when describing them to other people "step mother/fatehr" is perfectly correct and doesn;t imply any relationship other than marrigae to a parent.

Not sure why you are so worked up about it - if your Ex was encouraging your childrne to call his new wife "mum" I could see that would sting but "step motehr" rarely has warm fully connotations does it Hmm

Kewcumber · 11/07/2011 22:40

warm "fluffy"

Kewcumber · 11/07/2011 22:41

ah cross posted with alabama and said almost exactly teh same!

exoticfruits · 11/07/2011 22:45

Calling them 'mum' would be strange and I can't think that they would be saying 'stepmum could I have some more toast?'
I suspect OP has issues with ex and doesn't like the fact that he has a new partner-that doesn't change the fact that she has a relationship with the DCs and any mother should be glad-it would be far worse if she rejected them.
It may not be a situation that OP likes but she should put the DCs first and acknowledging they have a step mother is a start and she shouldn't make them feel guilty for being friendly.

springydaffs · 11/07/2011 22:46

Thanks for your replies, you have all really made me think.

There is obviouisly some history here: my ex's (childless) wife took to 'parenting' my late teen kids with gusto, using her considerable power to elbow me out of the way. I tried to tell myself that at least she wasn't wicked but tbh in many ways she has been by doing all she could to separate them from their mother. She hasn't been ultimately successful but she has made things very difficult for us, all in all.

That's my story and everyone's story is different. It's not hard to notice that people who have contributed who are stepparents have had a strong response to my OP, even though I was careful in the wording of it.

here's what I think: I think that the role of a step-parent is an unsung, selfless role. I think you put in all the grit and the commitment, up to a point, but at the end of the day that doesn't earn you a place in the childrens' lives, doesn't earn you a title - in fact, you don't earn anything. You can put all that in and still have nothing at the end of it. imo you do it for the love of their real parent (ie your partner), the children are indeed part of the package and you do the decent thing, for the greater good, but it in no way gives you a right to anything at all. I know that's unpalatable and it's not said in bitterness or malice: imo that is how it goes when you marry/partner someone who already has children - you ultimately take a back seat. If the relationships go well and you grow to genuinely love and respect one another then bravo, wonderful to have as many adults as possible genuinely committed to loving our children and acting as role models. imo that is a bonus but I don't think it is a given or a right, regardless how much sacrifice you may have made.

That said, I am not a step-parent! I am fully aware that it could be different if I ever am one, I may see things differently? What I do know is that if I ever was a 'step parent', I know down to my bones the dos and don't: that you don't step (arf arf) on the bio parents' toes, that you don't take on a role as though you have a right to it just because you married their parent. imo you don't have a right to a recognised relationship with the kids that aren't biologically yours, regardless how much graft and sacrifice you put in.

I meant to c&p an earlier post but lost it in the ether somewhere, but the term 'random woman' stuck in my head. That's how it felt to us (me and my kids): that a random woman appeared from nowhere, swung into taking a parenting role in their lives - disregarding me or them - which left us all open-mouthed. You mind your ps&qs if you take on children who are not yours imo and there is no guarantee at all that it'll turn out well, and neither can you expect it.

I'm sorry if my opinions offend - I don't mean to offend. I've obviously been chewed up by this whole thing and no doubt many step parents have been too. i recognise that many (most?) step parents are unsung heroes but, as I said earlier, I do believe that is par for the course I'm afraid.

OP posts:
Kewcumber · 11/07/2011 22:51

"doesn't earn you a title" - but it does Confused

marrying your partner (with children) does come with the common term "step-mother" in fact it may be a legal definition. You don;t even need to "earn" it. YOu could be the wicked witch of the west and never even meet the childrne and technically you would still be their step mother.