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To feel touched by Katie Price's article on Harvey?

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emkana · 30/06/2011 13:27

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2009642/Katie-Prices-heartfelt-denunciation-Frankie-Boyles-vile-slur-Harvey.html

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smallwhitecat · 01/07/2011 16:14

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Peachy · 01/07/2011 16:14

Well said SWC

ScarletOHaHa · 01/07/2011 16:17

In my opinion KP is a self-serving media whore (A celebrity who sells out their integrity and endorses products or services on TV commercials.)

Her 'job' is to film a version of her family life and so I can form an opinion of what she presents.

For the record Harvey has my every sympathy; his natural father is a disgrace; FB was completely and utterly wrong to make those comments.

I remain unmoved and am cynical of the motives behind this.

razzlebathbone · 01/07/2011 16:20

I find it quite amusing that people care what other people think about famous people. What we say or think doesn't actually matter. People snark on celebrities all the time, it has no bearing on our views of real people or on real life.

All this shcok and outrage and accusations of women hating? Don't buy it and don't subscribe to it. What anyone thinks of KP or other 'celebrities' is of no consequence. I don't even see it as real. It's like hating a book or an inanimate object. There isn't a famous person in the world who I would be offended or shocked on behalf of, even if I really liked them.

How I view KP is not indicative of anything other than what it is. If she turned up at my door needing help I'd gladly give it, if she were my neighbour I'd be pleasant and friendly. But she's not, she is to all intent and purpose a one dimensional thing. She doesn't care what I say, doesn't know me, isn't aware of me. She chose to offer up her life for comment by the faceless masses.

Next we'll have accusations of misanthropic, small minded, jealous bitterness and shocked outrage for someone suggesting Gary Barlow is ugly.

Snark is not real life.

MarioandLuigi · 01/07/2011 16:22
smallwhitecat · 01/07/2011 16:23

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Triggles · 01/07/2011 16:24

the jokes were "designed to provoke a reaction from Katie Price" ?!?! Oh please! Are you seriously giving Boyle credit for that much intelligence and wit? He certainly hasn't demonstrated it thus far!! Let's face it... in a battle of wits, the man is unarmed! (and that is ironic, when you consider the subject matter!) Grin

So... because someone remains "unmoved" and is "cynical of the motives behind this", they're happy to let these "completely and utterly wrong" comments pass unchallenged? Because people don't like the child's mother for some reason?

Wow... playground politics going global.... Hmm

MarioandLuigi · 01/07/2011 16:25

SWC

ZXEightyMum · 01/07/2011 16:28

I was unmoved by KP but it was still a worthwhile television programme. If anyone came out of it brilliantly it was Harvey. He is adorable and has achieved so much. As the parent of a child with a disability, it was great to see him doing so well.

If nothing else perhaps it will make some people change their ideas about children with complex needs and think again about how heartbreaking it is to be on the receiving end of these "jokes".

LoveBeingAbleToNamechange · 01/07/2011 16:38

So what exactly is the purpose of the 'joke' he has told in the paper today re the old man in the car home?

unpa1dcar3r · 01/07/2011 16:42

Hi Peachy, yes we've chatted before some time ago on the SEN page. How ya doing?
SWC you have summed it up so eloquently.

If Katie Price Aka Jordan can raise awareness of this very serious illness within the 'cultured' society in which we all have to live then she gets my vote. End of.
Why would someone spend so much time hating someone because she chooses to promote herself, often at the expense of people disliking her, and yet accept that the 'Frankie wankie Boils' of this world are ok cos, after all, they're only being controversial- ok so it's at the expense of others less fortunate but so what? They're only nobody's/disabled/don't have feelings or emotions.

Three times she invited him to join her show to air his views. Three times he declined. Of course I'm sure he'd use the excuse of saying that he wouldn't lower himself but we all know it's cos he's a coward who has no excuse for his attitude.
And let's face it, he couldn't possibly be any lower anyway for saying the things he said.

The young man with Down Syndrome really got me; when people were horrible to him he would tell them he was sending them to prison. How innocent and sweet was that, and how could anyone be so cruel to someone like him and think it's funny?
Talk about taking candy from a baby.
It's easy to be a bully. Much harder to stand up to thos ebullies. Katie Price did stand up to one of them and that makes her brave and fearless whatever else anyone might think of her; she was protecting her child and if she has to go public to do this, to raise awareness of the hurt and pain it causes then bloody good for her- about time all us mums n dads of disabled kids had someone stand up for all of us.

smallwhitecat · 01/07/2011 16:46

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unpa1dcar3r · 01/07/2011 16:53

Ummmm....er...hmmm...castration? Grin

Hey then he can claim DLA and have people make fun of him cos they're only being 'edgy' after all!!! Wink

But on a serious note, i too worry about things like this SWC with my boys. It's manageable while we're there but one day we won't be...of course I do plan on living one day longer than them (so I'll be about 130 odd when I pop me clogs) but failing that, it's very worrying that we are forced to potenetially leave our innocents in the hands of people who may not care too much about their welfare and happiness.

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razzlebathbone · 01/07/2011 17:00

I really don't think that by not hiding her son from view she is not pandering to popular culture. Which famous deliberately conceal their disabled children because they are ashamed or embarrassed? And maybe they just don't think the world of fame is any place for any child?

I don't believe she has one agenda or that she has given no thought to what she can gain from parading Harvey and her other children in front of the cameras. She uses the other two to advertise her wares, after all.

I am cynical. But I don't think it's unwarranted.

smallwhitecat · 01/07/2011 17:04

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razzlebathbone · 01/07/2011 17:07

Who at the moment, who is well known, is actively concealing a disabled child?

Peachy · 01/07/2011 17:13

Razzle how would we know? They are concealed!

there was a lot of talk about John Tavolta's son but as he died I won't be linking

razzlebathbone · 01/07/2011 17:22

How do we know these concealed children exist then? Genuine question btw. Not heard this before.

Peachy · 01/07/2011 17:34

Historically they always have.

But people find out when the chidlren pass on, usually- so although we can;t say we know these kids are out there, we can say it is likely that they are.

However there are more parents talking about their child's SN; that chap from BoyZone who helped promote the TreeHouse website, KP, one of the Beckhams (is it epilepsy?)..... that's good

unpa1dcar3r · 01/07/2011 17:41

Razzle asks "Who at the moment, who is well known, is actively concealing a disabled child?"

Answer; Prince Edward and his wife. They have a daughter (Louise I think) who is disabled and they do conceal her. apparently she was a bridesmaid at the latest royal wedding (I didn't watch it, preferring to spend the day with my disabled kids doing good stuff) but otherwise I don't think anyone ever sees her. Most don't even know about her being disabled.

unpa1dcar3r · 01/07/2011 17:44

However Sophie his wife did open my mates sons school for SEN as she has a vested interest in special needs.

razzlebathbone · 01/07/2011 17:47

What should Edward and Sophie be doing then? To be honest I didn't even know they had any kids at all. But not sure why I should?

patindahat · 01/07/2011 17:53

anyone of us could at any moment have our lives changed forever. life is given and taken and changed in an instant. who knows what the future may bring any family. frankie boyle may have to revise his views on disabled children and adults.

unpa1dcar3r · 01/07/2011 18:04

Edward and Sophie can do what they like regarding their own choices with their child. If they choose to conceal her it's up to them. As long as they're doing it for her sake and not cos she's an embarrassment anyway!

Doesn't mean everyone has to think the same. No way would I ever hide my kids away from life and society just cos society, or some aspects of it, can't understand them nor care about the fact that they are disabled and need understanding when they have a meltdwon in Tesco's for example.
Or when my elder son jumps up and down wooping and flapping his hands about. if people stare i wave and smile at them. Or sometimes I join in with son. That normally gets the twats running in the opposite direction I can tell you!

But that doesn't mean it's easy and it doesn't mean it's not very hurtful that some are so ignorant they think it's ok to make comments and stare.

Just out of curiousity does anyone on here actually know what Fragile X syndrome is or what it entails? More to the point does any one care? I doubt it, but it won't stop people commenting on it when we're out in public.