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AIBU?

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To think Prince Phillip is great?

312 replies

joogle · 09/06/2011 21:14

I love this guy, AIBU?

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Animation · 10/06/2011 09:41

I liked him too. I was a bit irritated with Fiona's arm waving questions. He wasn't having any of it was he, or rather he wouldn't play the game. That's what I liked. And I guess he could see through the ingratiating act she was putting on and also irritated with it....

Another more down to earth interviewer may have brought out the best in him.

RamblingRosa · 10/06/2011 09:47

He's a racist. I don't find racist old bigots endearing. Even less so when they live off tax payers' money.

Animation · 10/06/2011 09:50

How is he a racist?

diddl · 10/06/2011 09:51

There was some music played towards the end as a clip of his wedding was shown.

Anyone know what it was?

"Another more down to earth interviewer may have brought out the best in him."

I agree .
But I also don´t see why he found it necessary to be rude tbh.

I´m sure he can be charming-when he wants to be.

By comparison I doubt that the Queen is ever anything but.

southeastastra · 10/06/2011 09:54

ramblingrose what about the duke of edinburgh awards?

Animation · 10/06/2011 10:03

I think he was being true to himself - and wouldn't be coerced into doing any pseudo-feelings talk. Fiona wasn't talking in an authentic voice herself - she wasn't being genuine - you can't talk about feelings to someone like that. To me she appeared too concerned about her image - how she was coming across. That is very irriating to an interviewee - and particularly so if you're being asked to divulge your 'feelings' and 'regrets' (I've had a few) kind of thing...

grovel · 10/06/2011 10:10

diddl, do you mean Zadoc The Priest (Handel)?

BalloonSlayer · 10/06/2011 10:10

I didn't watch the interview last night as we watched one he did with Alan Titchmarsh a couple of weeks ago and that was excruciating.

I think he is of a generation that just "gets on with it," and has never given a lot of thought to what he is doing. He was homeless for a long time as a child, not on-the-streets homeless, but going from house to house staying with different relatives because he had no actual home. He was penniless when he married the Queen, he had nothing going for him other than <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/09/article-0-00BC5D2E00000190-36_468x329.jpg&imgrefurl=www.dailymail.co.uk/home/books/article-2001704/Philip-laid-bare-man-wouldnt-king-YOUNG-PRINCE-PHILIP-BY-PHILIP-EADE.html%3Fito%3Dfeeds-newsxml&usg=__9uKTuu5hwvdlBBJV58sBs9ZO7XM=&h=329&w=468&sz=62&hl=en&start=37&zoom=1&tbnid=xDJV4JtF08vYXM:&tbnh=144&tbnw=167&ei=QN7xTcG6Bc2Dswa-kuCIBw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dprince%2Bphilip%2Byoung%2Bman%2Bpictures%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D673%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=565&page=3&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:37&tx=120&ty=40&biw=1024&bih=673" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">his looks, her feelings for him, and his scheming uncle. He did, and has always done, what made logical sense at the time:

  • stayed with relatives
  • joined the army
  • married a rich eligible woman who adored him
  • gave up his naval career to support the Queen
  • employed the best nannies and selected the best schools money could buy to look after his children while the Queen did her job

etc

I think it's a relatively recent thing that people have been able to sit and talk about their feelings. There are loads of people who fought in the wars who, when you see them interviewed and asked how they felt, can't really answer. Because you just got on with it.

I don't blame him for not wanting to justify sixty-year old decisions in emotional terms for a TV audience.

moonmother · 10/06/2011 10:10

Well said Princess Figgy

I think the comment about his memory going wasn't true , bless him. Just before that Fiona questioned him about the 'slitty eyes' comment and he recalled straight away the name and newspaper the reporter worked for.

I think the 'gaffes' are his little bit of fun,with the press, he makes a comment that he knows the press will make a mountain out of and sits back amused at all the coverage. If his 'gaffes' were that insulting surely by now some of the heads of state etc he is supposed to have insulted would have come out and said so.

diddl · 10/06/2011 10:20

"diddl, do you mean Zadoc The Priest (Handel)?"

No, it was played whilst showing a clip of their wedding.

And I can´t get iplayer, or find info about the programme with a list of music played.

Annoyingly, I think my Dad has it on a 78, but he´s got too many for me to phone & ask him to tell me what they all are.

grovel · 10/06/2011 10:28

diddl

Copy and paste follows (may be useless):
21. Other music at the wedding included: Psalm 67 (God be merciful unto us and bless us) sung to a setting by EC Bairstow; the motet We Wait For Thy Loving Kindness, O God, by Dr William McKie, organist and master of the choristers of the Abbey; the hymn The Lord's My Shepherd (to the then relatively unknown Scottish tune Crimond); the anthem Blessed Be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, by SS Wesley was sung by the Abbey choir and members of the choirs of the Chapel Royal and St George's Chapel Windsor; and after signing the register in St Edward's Chapel, the procession made its way out of the Abbey to Mendelssohn's Wedding March.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 10/06/2011 10:33

I think that other people living in other countries, who enjoy Royalty, actually do like our Royal family. I like Prince Philip, Princess Anne and Prince Harry particularly and think that they are good ambassadors for Great Britain even though I'm not a Royalist.

I have no interest really in the ongoing PC debate; the majority of the 'whining' seems to be for the sake of making a point... and labouring it... endlessly, confusing racism with bigotry (which is subjective). I suppose it gives purpose to some people and excuses them from having to engage on any other considerations.

diddl · 10/06/2011 10:35

Am not sure if it was at the wedding or just used in the documenary.

But it just came to me.

ExitPursuedByAKitten · 10/06/2011 10:44

I think he is fab. Long may he continue.

Pixieonthemoor · 10/06/2011 11:00

I think Mrs Warthog has it on the nose. Did anyone see the photo in Hello mag of the visit to Ireland?? The Queen was gazing at Prince Philip as he spoke to someone else and the look on her face was of utter adoration. It was just the sweetest thing - she is clearly still mad about him and it was like she was suddenly a young girl again, very much in love and not quite believing her luck at pulling such a man. It was utterly charming. Really put a spring in my step!!

Funtimewincies · 10/06/2011 11:07

Is there an official age when bigoted national embarrassment morphs into 'oh heck, what's he going to do next' eccentric un-pc old duffer?

It's a top quality media makeover. What next? Vladimir Putin reads Russian folk tales sitting in a wingback chair with a blanket over his knees?

curtaincall · 10/06/2011 12:06

NO! Funtimewincies Vladimir Putin was ex-head of KGB and is a regular visitor to unfriendly journalists' graves.

DofE fought in WW2 risking his life his country by nearly getting killed on a warship and as far as I know he hasn't murdered anyone. He has never strayed from his public duty and has been a rock to the Queen who's brought 65 years of relative peace to the UK.

Bigoted? My df and dm make comments about my mixed race ds-g (never in front of him). I tell them it's ignorant and offensive, but they laugh it off. They won't change now. I still love them though. Df reminded me so much of PP they could have been brothers.

DofE is blunt and speaks what is on his mind. His comments have been not just about people from other races - the press picks up on this because of the British cultural cringe and national guilt from days of Empire. He is just as rude to anyone. In a pub, this would be seen as banter. Also thought he was highly intelligent, witty and modest. (And sexy)

Fiona missed a trick. He was playing with her like a cat and mouse. They should have sent an ex-military man from his background to lull him into a false sense of security before asking penetrating questions. Or Michael Parkinson. Or Oprah.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 10/06/2011 12:09

Agree curtaincall, he's highly intelligent and has this 'sexy avuncular' thing going on.

SarahBumBarer · 10/06/2011 12:17

I think accusations of beng a Nazi sympathiser are disgusting (given his military service which he would have continued if not for the death of his father in law) and without foundation.

I think accusations of being a bigoted racist are also without foundation and based on the worst possible interpretation of a comment which the entire nation in question did not see as racist.

He does work very hard for charity - my grandad who I loved dearly was certainly doing a lot less to earn his state pension at 90 years old! DofE is admirable as a scheme as are many of his other charitable invovlements.

I think he has show a great deal of duty and dignity in his role as Consort and clearly at times found it very trying (the whole not being able to give his children his name issue etc).

I like him. And I did wonder if the "bunny hugger" comment was aimed at Charles! Grin

curtaincall · 10/06/2011 12:48

bunny hugger !! never 'eard of it before . sounds like cross between bunny boiler and tree hugger. Did he get his metaphors mixed up or was it deliberate ! The way he recovered really quickly to FB's question by talking about donkeys in Scicily. Quick on the draw or what!

curtaincall · 10/06/2011 12:50

just googled this term and realise I've been left behind by the tide of history yet again ... Blush

smashinghairday · 10/06/2011 13:13

I adore him and the queen. But then I admire a stiff upper lip, self reliance and getting on with things rather than chest beating and wringing of hands.

He is quite exceptionally remarkable for a man of his age as is his wife.

May they both keep going for many years to come.

diddl · 10/06/2011 13:19

"Fiona missed a trick. He was playing with her like a cat and mouse."

Well that´s it for me.

I think if he didn´t want to do the interview then why bother.

But to be so contemptuous/belittling was unnecessary I thought.

smashinghairday · 10/06/2011 13:32

She was punching way above her weight interviewing him. I think Piers Morgan would have been absolutely brilliant with him.