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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think Prince Phillip is great?

312 replies

joogle · 09/06/2011 21:14

I love this guy, AIBU?

OP posts:
excitedLJ · 09/06/2011 21:57

DBF I'm afraid I'll enjoy it too much and never stop!

Where should I begin though...so many inappopriate comments to create so little time....

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 09/06/2011 21:58

He's a national calamity near a microphone.. That made me laugh so much, skiing gardener. I think he's fab too although I don't know that I'd want to be on the end of his tongue. Grin

footballmum · 09/06/2011 21:59

I think he's........formidable. Wouldn't want to get on his bad side!

threadsoffeeling · 09/06/2011 21:59

fakeplastic, i think you have hit the nail on the head. People that old were brought up in a different world. I would even say a different planet. Values were very very different to what is now considered normal. To judge someone like that on our current 'mores' isnt appropriate imo

excitedLJ · 09/06/2011 22:00

create perhaps you're right and I shall stick to abusing only those who are the same rank has hubby! Although I'm not sure I would be doing a very good impression of PP if I start censoring and I'm not even there!

Pedallleur · 09/06/2011 22:02

He comes from an age of few cars, education was only for the rich and black or asian people were servants. I've been at a couple of events he was at but he seemed ok. Rumours about ladies in the past but he had done his bit for the Queen and he was there in WW2 so kudos for that. Not a great father I don't think when you look how all his sons turned out but Anne is prob.more like him. He has had a great life though. Naval officer, polo,horses,uniforms etc. Got to meet lots of the worlds top people of the last 50 years although having to sit thro' The Royal Variety Show for 40 years must have embittered him

ajandjjmum · 09/06/2011 22:02

He reminds me of my Dad in some ways - says what he thinks rather than what people want him to say. And clearly doesn't totally accept that times have changed.

I have a very soft spot for him.

FakePlasticTrees · 09/06/2011 22:07

Oh lord, the Royal Variety Show! And he can't get drunk! Fancy having to watch the Royal Variety show stone cold sober! I always think that's a very British thing, we don't want a total revolution, but we want them to suffer, so they have to watch shit like the Royal Variety performance and holiday in Scottish rain and be glad of it.

AngryFeet · 09/06/2011 22:08

Sorry but I love him. Backward as he may be .dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2001251/As-Prince-Philip-turns-90-relive-hilarious-gaffes.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

magicmummy1 · 09/06/2011 22:26

Yes, black and Asian people might have been servants in his youth, but the world has moved on and most people realised that this was wrong decades ago. Are we to assume that he is incapable of learning or reflection?

Sorry, but to suggest that old people can't help being bigoted is horribly ageist and deeply patronising.

excitedLJ · 09/06/2011 22:56

magic it may not be horribly pc but in the case of some old people it is horriby true. my gp have no idea they're even doing anything wrong most of the time.
If I was judged by every slip of the tongue, bad choice of word etc then people would possibly think me the devil incarnate. Sometimes humans run their mouth without engaging their brain- even you I'm sure.
You may not love the bloke but there are aspects to his personality that are very good too - i.e. walking with Prince William behind Diana's hearse, and for some people, me included, these things just matter a bit more

magicmummy1 · 09/06/2011 23:14

Surely any grandparent would support a grandchild at his mother's funeral. Don't get what is so special about that, really, but obviously we're all entitled to our opinion.

I'm sure I choose my words badly at times but I don't make crass racist remarks, and I'm sorry, I really don't buy the age excuse. I know lots of elderly people who wouldn't dream of being so offensive, and they would be mortified at the suggestion that their age rendered them incapable of rational thought or reflection.

I'm afraid that young bigots grow into old bigots. I dislike bigots of all ages.

limitedperiodonly · 09/06/2011 23:20

He amuses me, however my mum, who's three years younger than him, tore off and screwed up the cover of my Daily Mail's Weekend TV guide and gave it back to me because he was on it.

Sort all that out.

trident · 09/06/2011 23:23

... I live with someone exactly like him - and our Royal Higness has my highest regard as I have not seen her blogging her woes on any social website....

excitedLJ · 09/06/2011 23:27

magic is it less bigoted of you to dislike people you don't know - my gp included? and if you read my earlier post i clearly stated that i think people do learn, again my gp included, when confronted with people who challenge their stereotypes. He is not evil towards people and helps in many charities for many reasons with many races/disabilities etc. Again as i said earlier his actions speak louder than words for me.

If you had seen the life story programme you would know what I meant by the funeral thing, it was lovely really....promise i'm not normally overly soppy!

P.S can't beieve how many times i've posted here - i didn't even realise i cared!

BagofHolly · 09/06/2011 23:27

He's smashing. I saw some photos of him in the navy and he had the best legs I've ever ever seen. And Prince Harry is the spit of him.

DioneTheDiabolist · 09/06/2011 23:29

I think he's great. Beligerent, stubborn, intelligent, strong, un-PC and funny. Reminds me of my grandfather.

excitedLJ · 09/06/2011 23:35

bagofholly have i subconsciously seen these images and thats why i have this sudden urge to defend him?? Hmm

and harry is...how do you say...top totty!

magicmummy1 · 09/06/2011 23:50

ExcitedLJ - where on earth have I said that I dislike your grandparents? If they are racist bigots, then yes, I expect I would dislike them intensely. However, I have never met them, I have no reason to think that about them, and I really have no opinion of them whatsoever.

I am talking about remarks made by prince Philip, which I consider to be offensive. He has made numerous gaffes over the years, despite being surrounded by numerous aides and advisers, and this suggests to me that he is unwilling to learn or change. I don't like the image that he projects, and i consider him to be a national embarrassment. I think I am entitled to that opinion.

excitedLJ · 10/06/2011 00:20

magic okay, i never said you weren't and felt i had been fairly lighthearted. apologies if that didn't come across. But i will say that i am relatively new to this and surprised by your verocity, makes me think twice about posting in future...

Pandemoniaa · 10/06/2011 00:23

I think it was Rory Bremner who did a sketch in which this classic line appeared:

"I'm not a Pleasant Fucker, I'm the Duke of Edinburgh".

I'll second that.

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 10/06/2011 03:52

Phil the Greek may be many things, but in the flesh he has an impressive almost mesmerising presence and exudes charisma - his uncle Louis was a conniving dirty old man (in the sexual sense) but he, too, had bucketloads of charm. Unfortunately, this particular Battenberg trait appears to bypass the females of the line - Charles, William & Harry have it, Anne doesn't have it, and neither does Andrew or Edward but that's not surprising given that they are allegedly not Phil's sprogs

It can't be easy for any spouse to be outranked by their OH, and I have considerable admiration for anyone who has the inner confidence and/or the rectitude to carry out their role with aplomb.

I've also heard that the Duke is not a well man, fake, but I sincerely hope he'll be around for a few more years.

For my money, HRH The Prince Philip is far more worthy of the title 'national treasure' than that whinging minger Stephen Fry.

troisgarcons · 10/06/2011 05:51

It's been at least 15 years since he referred to Chinese people as "slitty-eyed nips"

That's an example of ignornace - by the poster! He actually said 'stay here any longer and you will get slitty-eyes' - picked up by our press and turned into a racism thing. But we of course, don't generally know the Chinese call us 'round-eyes' - and thought the whole thing was terribly funny.

He's bloody marvellous and the glue that holds the Royals together.

saffronwblue · 10/06/2011 06:17

Yes, I have a soft spot for him (here in the Commonwealth). He is in many ways a product of his time and mixed in with the terrible gaffes is his great courage during the war, his own grief at not being able to continue a naval career when his wife became Queen so young, and his commitment to decades and decades of service and showing up to everything.

Orbinator · 10/06/2011 06:34

He reminds me of my Grandfather. Yes, the one who, much to my dismay, asked my best friend from school (who is Nigerian) whether it was a rough ride on the banana boat Shock She had no idea what he was on about and he had meant it as a joke, he giggled and was much put out when he realised she didn't understand. I should point out that he was otherwise very courteous and respectful to her while she stayed with us and that was just his way of breaking the ice.

If you aren't the kind of person who lets themselves get offended by obvious attempts at humour then you'll probably appreciate his quirky and often outspoken character.