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To think Prince Phillip is great?

312 replies

joogle · 09/06/2011 21:14

I love this guy, AIBU?

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Orbinator · 10/06/2011 06:44

Shall we just agree that he is like Marmite? (mentally apologises to royal family for comparing a member to a condiment);
You either love him or hate him.

magicmummy1 · 10/06/2011 07:00

ExcitedLJ - please don't let me stop you from posting in future. I didn't mean to scare you off. Grin

Perhaps you'll understand my reaction better if I tell you that I find it difficult to be lighthearted about casual racism because of the vile racist vitriol that gets posted through my letterbox from time to time, directed towards my DH and my mixed race dd. For me, it is no joke, and unfortunately prince philip's "gaffes" just help to legitimise some of the more vicious comments spouted by the idiots who live up the road from me. As a public figure, I think he should be more responsible - regardless of what was acceptable in his youth.

ajandjjmum · 10/06/2011 07:02

Izzy
Where has this question about the parentage of Andrew and Edward come from? I have never ever heard that mentioned before. The Queen absolutely adores PP - she turns into a 14 year old with a huge crush whenever she looks at him. I have never heard this before, and can't believe for a second that there's any truth in it. Although there's no doubt that those boys have little charm.

I share your admiration in him for his support of the Queen - must have been tough at times for such an 'alpha' male.

seeker · 10/06/2011 07:05

I suppose it depends whether you think strolling round in a uniform at the taxpayer's expense constitutes decades and decades of service, really.

Personally, apart from anything else, I have no respect or liking for anyone who feels about blood sports the way he does.

And it's important to remember when we say stuff about "Oh, when he was young, all asican and black people were servants" that they weren't in the countries he visited as part of his royal "duties". The ability to observe and learn is an essential human characteristic.

Oh, and about him being a lovable, non pc uncle figure. Fine, but he represents US when he goes abroad as the consort of the Head of State! Is that the image we want other countries to have of us?

Georgimama · 10/06/2011 07:14

He has worked bloody hard for this country - far harder and for far longer than any consort of any president would ever or could ever work. I think he's ace.

magicmummy1 · 10/06/2011 07:15

Seeker - quite!

walkersmum · 10/06/2011 07:15

I have met him, briefly, about 5 minutes. Lovely person, he was interested and istened to answers etc. Maybe he is a bit direct but I'm sure a lot of the things he says are in jest or to put people at their ease and are taken out of context by the media.

I don't think he suffers fools gladly and I admire that :)

CurrySpice · 10/06/2011 07:24

I really couldn't give a rat's ass about the stupid old bigot. But I did snort when hassled said he "works hard". Yeah, those risks eh? Work like Trojans they do! Hmm

CurrySpice · 10/06/2011 07:25

Risks= royals FFs!

Georgimama · 10/06/2011 07:25

A sight harder than most 90 year olds. Or 45 year olds, frankly.

CurrySpice · 10/06/2011 07:42

Yeah right. And I Expect he's just up now after a sleepless night worrying how he'll pay the gas bill!

Georgimama · 10/06/2011 07:46

Yes obviously nothing that any wealthy or privileged person does is of any merit or value because they don't have to worry about the gas bill.

Grow up.

CurrySpice · 10/06/2011 07:56

Not what I said at all. But thanks for your incisive reply and salient advice Hmm

diddl · 10/06/2011 08:02

I didn´t think that he came across very well in the interview.

Rude & patronising I thought.

Northernlurker · 10/06/2011 08:12

Fiona Bruce was a totally mad choice for that interview. She kept trying to get him to talk about his feelings - which he was never, ever going to do. I think he was enjoying the interview though - especially the 'profession' bit.
I've seen no evidence for calling him a bigot.

ajandjjmum · 10/06/2011 08:16

Curry - of course he won't be worrying about the gas bill. But he might be worrying about the next time a member of his family sneezes in the wrong direction, and the take the press will then feed to us. Different people - different pressures.

And he does not wander around at the state's expense. He is not paid and he is our monarch's consort through marriage and duty.

I'm sure he's not perfect - hands up those of us who are!! But to still be 'doing your duty' at 90 deserves one hell of a pat on the back in my mind.

baguettecut · 10/06/2011 08:17

I thought him rude, offhand throughout but predominantly just a properly stroppy man.

LostInTransmogrification · 10/06/2011 08:30

Agree with baguettecut, he came across as rude and awkward. I hate the grovelling way some interviewers (Alan Titchmarsh for example) slaver round his ankles obsequiously. No-one dares question anything he says so he says whatever he bloody well likes. I appreciate that his life has been restricted by the role he had to fulfill and that he would probably have been a lot happier staying in the navy, but really, he is an embarrassment. I shudder when I think about how other countries view our royal family.

FakePlasticTrees · 10/06/2011 08:44

you know what, DH and I don't need to worry about the gas bill either, does that mean nothing we do is of any importance or value to society? Quite frankly, I don't want to live in a society where those who are comfortable don't feel the need to concern themselves with those who aren't.

I think asking people of his generation and background to chat about his emotions was always going to hit a brick wall - she should have known better than to even try.

BoffyMefferson · 10/06/2011 09:05

Magicmummy, I just felt I had to post and say I am sorry and shocked to hear people actually go to the bother of posting nonsense through your letter box.

That must feel horrible and it is personal. I have never experienced "proper" racism, but someone at school once told me to "get back to Poland" because of my surname. I still remember the feeling and not knowing how to reply as a 14 year old.

joogle · 10/06/2011 09:08

Why is the description slitty eyes racist? Is it because it was used as a derogatory term?

My ex husband was Japanese and his eyes were slitty in comparison to my rounder eyes, our DD has eyes shaped somewhere inbetween, would that make me a racist bigot to say her eyes were slightly slitty shaped? I was often described as round eyed when living in japan, I didn't take it as a racist slur, do some of you believe I should have?

I may be being naive here but I'm curious about this.

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southeastastra · 10/06/2011 09:08

his mother left him alone for years in a public school - she didn't visit him :( i think it's made him appear cold as that was the british way of the 30s

did anyone hear him say bunny huggers this morning? Grin

ThePrincessRoyalFiggyrolls · 10/06/2011 09:25

I love PP, I think he is quite funny, it also became quite apparent in that interview that he is articulate and intelligent and has the memory of an elephant. I am pretty sure those "gaffes" are to see what the press say about the Royals, he knows exactly who has said what and when and I think they probably make up their minds as to whom and which papers are acceptable to give interviews too. Lets face it, if you were going to give an interview that seemed all nicey nicey as a "face" and then they turned it round on you when it went to press (have seen this happen a lot!!!) you would want to know who you were dealing with.

It may well be a firm, but actually it is a firm that people around the world admire and YES still come to this country in the hope of spotting them. The recent Wedding has proven that. This man will never retire, has been in the spotlight for over 60 years and when they got married they all thought they would have a little bit longer before having to take on the role of Queen. Her father died so young and they were never given the opportunity to back out, have a bit of time to themselves for longer than a year or so, he gave up his promising career to stand behind his wife, literally, and quite often he isn't allowed to stand next to her, never sits at the same table as her, he must be quite lonely, never really gets to speak to anyone without having to be polite and he never ever gets to have the coffee!

He has been instrumental in starting up the interest in environmentalism, which he has passed on to his son, he has supported so many many charities worldwide and has slowed down but not stopped and it is unlikely that he ever will. I wonder how many of us will still be working full time at 90?

I therefore respect him and the work he has done, the occasional biggoted comment is small as times have changed so very much, I still get seriously pissed of with my parents at times who are in their 70's but I equally know when my dad makes a gaffe it doesn't mean he is a nasty mean spirited old man who is inherently evil, he just hasn't changed quite as quickly as the world we are living in. And to be fair, in these days one week it is fine to say something and the following week you are being taken to the Court of Human Rights. No wonder it is confusing for the slightly older generation.

I also think its a bit mean to say all the things were gaffe's they have been taken over many many years and equally we have all admitted that the world has changed from the world of the 1980's to now! Interestingly nothing has been reported from before then!

cowboylover · 10/06/2011 09:31

I find it refreshing to have an honest character who was a working man supporting the family.

tothemoonandback · 10/06/2011 09:32

He is vile. If I was Fiona Bruce I'd have got my coat, said 'fuck this' and left. It was painful to watch.

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