to be incredibly annoyed with my 20 month old son.

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so much that Ive had to go upstairs and calm down away from him.

In the shower this morning, and ds playing/shouting for me, but as I was washing my hair, was reassuring him that il be a minute etc... anyway looked down and their is my £300 NEW mobile phone, broken, gone, etc... yes its insured through my house insurance, but Ggggrrr, I'm so annoyed.

annoyed at my 20 month old son, honestly!.

It was on charge in my bedroom, same place where I have charged my mobiles for 5 years. Grrr .

right then, you are a man. Going on about flexes and trip hazards etc and not playpens.

Are you an electrician?

Oh so that's why I've seen people in films just yanking the plug out of the socket but it doesn't actually work in real life.

I was very annoyed when I realised that my DS of about the same age was not kindly giving me a bit of peace and quiet by playing nicely in the kitchen- he'd pulled a chair up to the sink and was using the washing up sponge and fairy liquid to give my phone a good wash, and had been doing for at least 10 minutes!

Thinking about it, he could have:
Fallen off the chair into the sink and drowned;
Pulled up the chair on the other side of the kitchen, climbed onto the kitchen side and found the knife block where it hides behind the bread machine, got out a knife and stabbed himself (or me!) to death;
Drunk a whole bottle of fairy liquid and poisoned himself;
Eaten the washing up sponge and died of sponge inhalation and bad germs;
Wrapped his own head in clingfilm and suffocated...

Thank goodness he only killed the phone!

OP, YANBU. I was pissed off too, and woe betide ANY child who touches my phone now!
Other posters-lighten up! She took a shower in her en-suite whilst her nearly 2 year old played in her bedroom. SHe didn't fly to Spain for a week and leave him with a Maccy D and a Fruit Shoot!

and if you look at a more modern 13A plug, you will notice that part of the L and N pins is shrouded in plastic. That means that if you have a plug partly pulled out of its socket, you can't touch the live part of the pins, even using a knife or something, until you have pulled it out quite a long way. And by the time you have pulled it out that far, the other end of the pin has come out of the Supply contacts in the socket, so is no longer live.

perhaps I'll stop now.

YABU to pay £300 for a phone.

PJ I think you have convinced me.........

ami she didn't abandon her DC, but that is not the issue here. No one is suggesting that she is a bad mother, just that she should have had a playpen................

and BTW PJ am lolling about your posts. It takes a man to be that interested in sockets and the like.

I'm strangely fascinated by your plug ramblings.

When the wonderful UK Ring Final Circuit was designed (mostly to economise on use of scarce copper by using the minimum safe guauge of wire) the design load was set at 30Amps per circuit, and the maximum load per plug and socket was designed at 13Amps, because in those days, the biggest load appliance any normal person would have in his home, would be a 3-bar electric fire; and it was then practically impossible to envisiage a house where more than a couple of electric fires would be in use at any one time.

This design allows you to put your electric fire anywhere in the house where you have a socket, and the same socket is equally safe and suitable to use for a light load like a table lamp, because the fuse is in the plug.

Over the last 40 years, homes have started to contain lots of heavy-load appliances, and if you use a tumble drier, washing machine and dishwasher at the same time as your microwave, kettle and toaster, you are liable to have an overload. Today, it is useful to have a dedicated circuit for the kitchen or utility room where you keep all these appliances, as well as a a separate Ring for Upstairs and Down.

Are you bored yet?

funny, playpens will probably lead to a child developing an attachment disorder due to being able to see mummy but not get to her whilst she MNets, or sticking their head through the bars and dying.

Also, it's not only men who are interested in electrical sockets and stuff you know. Women can be electricians as well!

PJ where were you when we discovered we'd been living in our house 6 years and the electrics had never been earthed (and most of the sockets were incorrectly wired, which is why they gave off green sparks when the DSs we put plugs in)?

eek!

you can get a free electrical safety check from some electriciuty companies, but it is only to a ploy to get rewiring work at not-very-cheap prices.

A Periodic Inspection would probably cost you £150 in a typical house, but sometimes it is not worth doing if the installation is obviously in a terrible state and all needs to be replaced. It is frequently easier and cheaper to rewire completely than to try to patch up an old system, especially if there are people living in the house.

fuck with the "attachement disorder" bollocks. Armchair psychiatrists are the worst.

*fuck off.

I feel for you OP. My DD 'washed' my phone in nice warm soapy bubbles at the kitchen sink and then put it on the drainer to dry.
My phone was a few weeks old at the time. I went right back to my old phone, which strangely enough is still working fine and DD has not broken yet.
I understand the logic of putting things out of reach of toddlers, and my mobile is definitely out of DD's reach now, but my DD has damaged other things that I have not put out of reach. I don't know when she did this, because I cannot take my eyes off of her for more than 10 seconds, so it must have been one of the times I popped to the toilet and didn't carry her up with me.

So far, my DD has:

scratched my tv screen 4 times, scratched my electric fire, chipped the floor, gouged holes in my wooden tables, crayoned on my lounge wall, smeared babybel wrappers over my windows, pulled almost every plant out of my garden, constantly puts smears over the windows, (I have been known to polish the windows 6 times a day), posted my mail back through the letter box.
Of course this doesn't all happen at the same time, I would have to leave DD alone for very long periods of time to be able to do all of that at the same time, but she is now 2.9 and still does these things if I am not watching her every move.

I cannot possibly put the fire/windows/floor/walls up 4 feet in the air although I would love to.

My only solution with my DD is to watch her every single second that it is humanely possible to watch her, and even then she will do some of this right in front of me while I am saying 'Noooo DD' as I reach across to remove whatever offending article she has in her hand, before realising I have got there too late.
Offending articles are DD's cutlery whilst eating her dinner, crayons (only allowed while I am in the room present) and her fingernails usually.

I am now at the point where I feel my best option is to be next to DD at all times.

Just a warning of what might or might not follow on as the months pass OP because forewarned is forearmed so they say. Mind you, every single person I have ever left DD with have all said that there is no way DD can be left for a second without being watched, and that much as she is a delight, she is also extremely tiring because of this. One friend has 3 DC under 5 and said looking after my DD was more difficult than all 3 of hers at once.

I guess some DC are just more inquisitive than others and have the initiative to get to what they want regardless of where you have put it.

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fuck with the "attachement disorder" bollocks. Armchair psychiatrists are the worst.

What a delightful way you have with words. It's a shame you left your sense of humour in your armchair!

Do you think I'm also an armchair A&E triage nurse when I suggest children might stick their head through the bars and die?

Lighten up, will you-the OP got a bit miffed her DS washed her phone!

PJ, thankfully we have a fabby electrician and plumbing company just 4 doors down from our house who I regularly call on for these emergencies!

The faulty wiring was discovered by a lovely man from British Gas who was servicing our boiler and did some sort of test before he started to check the earth was ok. He thought his machine was broken, it went so far off the scale! He'd never actually seen the needle get up so high before!

Piglet John, please continue. I am deriving considerable satisfaction from living in the land of the World's Greatest Plugs.

OP. YANBU to feel annoyed but I'm sure you'll consider it a lesson learned.

"op - you are the one moaning about your phone. you have also been deliberately provocative criticising others safety methods. what an odd thread"

You do speak absolute tosh sungirltan, Ive never once criticised anybodies safety method, I have said what I though about those methods, from MY opinion (after being asked several times) , however not once have I criticised anybody about the methods they parent with, HENCE why I keep saying we all parenting differently, and neither way is wrong!! numerous times.

You have continued to criticising my parenting methods, however seem to think that's OK?!?, and then accuse me of criticising your methods which I have not done. You have the mindset, that one is OK, however the other is not, pot, kettle, black, in your direction.

I have never once criticised anybody on this page, nor have I been rude, accused people of neglecting their child, etc... I suggest if you are accusing me of this, go back and read my posts alone, and only my posts, and I will wait for the apology that I am owed, by some posters!.

All these accusations over a mobile phone, again, only on MN!.

PJ, I dont use the 3 pin covers (socket inserts), they we're installed in the house, by a nurse and a dr who (husband and wife) had respite for terminally ill families, before we brought the house, hence why I get them checked yearly, the reason why I haven't got rid of them is because my niece is terminally ill, one day she will actually need need those for her equipment!.

my sockets

well my phone is NOT busted, the rice and heating did the trick

You are going to have to learn to adapt as your child gets older, so YANBU to be upset about your phone, but YABVU to be cross with a 20 month old for fiddling with what he found.
Wait til he finds the scissors and starts collecting pieces that he likes.

Have not read all of the posts in this thread, so sorry if I repeat anything.
The general rule around this neck of the woods is, for children under 6 years old, to have anything you do not want them to reach in a place 6 feet high.
I realize there are climbers, and if a parent was blessed with one of these active little monkey's, they may need to bring them into the shower with them!
Glad your phone survived.

Seek and destroy is whatl toddlers do. It's their job.

DS2's head is too big to go though the bars, and attachment disorder? Snort