to be incredibly annoyed with my 20 month old son.

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so much that Ive had to go upstairs and calm down away from him.

In the shower this morning, and ds playing/shouting for me, but as I was washing my hair, was reassuring him that il be a minute etc... anyway looked down and their is my £300 NEW mobile phone, broken, gone, etc... yes its insured through my house insurance, but Ggggrrr, I'm so annoyed.

annoyed at my 20 month old son, honestly!.

It was on charge in my bedroom, same place where I have charged my mobiles for 5 years. Grrr .

Thankyou Doris, My day actually consisted off, getting my two disabled nieces up and dressed for school, for school bus pick up, taking ds to school, getting myself and my youngest ready, all before 8.30am. Its hectic, but manageable. I do this ALL myself also, as dh is at work early.

This is for first incident, I'm sure it wont be the last

We have a Baby Dan baby prison and neither of mine have been able to climb out.

DS2 isn't always happy to go in it, but if I can't supervise him then I would much rather he be safe but miserable than unsafe and content

we cant have a play pen upstairs, we need wheelchair accessibility. however I dont agree with them either.

Ive probably gave myself away now also.

"I haven't read the whole thread sorry. Wanted to say I just love your name OP."

Thankyou, its off my ds1 Ben10 poster

I'm with you OP.

I absolutely HATE this age. Yes, they are very cute (mine is 19 months so pretty much where you are at) in that they are doing such cute things with developing speech and are still tiny walkerss and all that but they are too young to understand "no" and "leave it alone" etc and flaming well everything has to go up on a shelf somewhere.

I am fed up to the back teeth of anything of any delecateness or value being on my top chest of drawers, on on the mantle above the fireplace etc, and all its really done is teach her to climb.

She's not as destructive as my son was (she's more likely to fiddle with it than bash it, whatever she gets) but it still drives me mad.

Its not "reasonable" to resent her or be irritated with her for this perfectly normal exploring / learning through play type behaviour but I damn well reserve the right to havr a great big bitch about it from time to time to anyone who will listen or anyone who wont.

Roll on Christmas! (I say this because it will be around that time they stop this kind of thing and move on to proper tantrumming and stuff - no time for breaking small objects of desire when there are tantrums to be had)

Grrr. And. Breathe.

the playpen goes downstairs where the baby can be safely contained. How on earth can you not agree with playpens? I really don't understand the attitude that it is better to risk them being injured etc than have them contained for a short while when you cannot supervise them.

funny, I dont agree with them, full stop, in the same way I dont agree with wrist restrains/harnesses etc...

My son wasn't injured, he is not going to be injured while upstairs, this hasn't been a issue in the 9 months he has been walking. I accept you choose to use them, so please accept mine to not use them.

go back to your usual name OP if you want an easier ride

"I dont agree with them, full stop, in the same way I dont agree with wrist restrains/harnesses etc..."

Really? Not even with something fun like this?

All toddlers are different in terms of ability to stay close and safe, yes, but all have very tiny and slippery hands which can be easily lost.

presumably you don't 'agree' with high chair straps, car seat belts or pushcahir straps either then?

Of course I accept your choice to make like difficult for yourself, I just don't understand why.

ok tell us what is wrong with reins or wrist straps, gwan, you know you want to

a playpen is not a cage - yy to that. i dont have one but i take dd (19 months) into the bathroom with me and shut the door when i'm showering. sometimes her clothes get wet but at least i can see her/hear her.

dd has broken my camera - i chalked it up to experience but actually i out off replacing it (would like an upgrade etc) because i thought she might chuck it around/ get hold of it. if dd breaks my mobile i will buy a cheap replacement and stick with that until shes older.

there was a 20 month old v near me who was strangled by a blind cord in the last few weeks whilst mum popped downstairs to get his milk. very sad and could have been avoided.

I dont agree with wrist strap, as they can break wrists, or if a child falls, they may not be able to break the fall by their arms with the straps on (this has been done by a family member of mine, whilst trying to run in the direction of a road).

I dont agree with harness, as I dont like them, in the same way I dont like play pens.

No I dont agree with highchairs either, my son now uses a table and chair, when he was younger he used this

Seat belts are not a choice, legally children have to be fastened by seat belts, we however use a 5 point harness car seat, for ALL children.

We all have different parenting methods, neither is right or wrong.

ninxy - i have a littlelife backpack for dd - she loves it :)

sigh. fullforce you ocld oculd argue that all baby equipment/everything in life carries a degree of risk. i'd rather have a broken wrist that a dead child hot by a car.

how is the fabric thing different from a high chair? (btw i quite like those but cant see how they are less restrictive than a highcahir pulled up to the table)

Oh, I hope the rice works OP. FWIW it did when my 14mo chewed on my teen's iPod - although a grain of rice got caught in the speaker part and proved very difficult to remove. I well understand your annoyance and just wanting to vent - think I would cry. Good luck :)

I didn't know that about 3-pin socket covers. And I didn't even know the full socket covers existed! So thank you, thread, for informing me of these things. :)

I feel sorry for the op, bet she wishes she never bothered starting this thread!

sungirltan, because my child wouldn't be in reach of things, in MY house he would be, especially down stairs, with all medical supplies we have for my nieces. which are all at highchair level, and also my child can unlock harnesses.

Of course everything carries risk, however its up to us to judge that risk, I haven't question why you use your equipment so why do, with me?. In a writing manner that I am incorrect?

*would be in reach of things.

Can a 20 month old climb on a bed then nose dive off ? Just wondering like.....
Why not get some of those toys out of that playroom and close the bathroom door if you really have to shower whilst he's on the loose?
Or am I supposed to only say - 'oh yes OP - YABcompletelyR to be pissed off at a curious 20 month old'

well I dont have a door in my shower room, its a cubical that's in a cupboard (best way to describe it) and of course he could nose dive off the bed, but my bed is a Japanese style one, a foot off the floor, so my nieces can get on it.