To tell ds9 he can't go in neighbour's garden now they have a swimming pool

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Been lurking for a while but this is my first thread. I'd like to know what you wise ladies think. Our back gardens are easily accessible, separated by hedges only so kids can run between gardens to play. DS is a good swimmer but we also have a dd3 who can't swim, so I've told them both they can't go next door but one anymore. DS understands my reasons but it's going to be hard for him when he has to say he can't go over, isn't it?

Well, I would never let ds or dd go in a pool if I was unsure about the supervision. And I'd be building the Berlin Wall to keep them in the garden if I felt there was a possibility they'd escape.

Ds and dd can swim - but they're not great swimmers and there's always the fear that they'd be egged on and get into difficulties.

As others have said ad infinitum, accidents happen. Of course many random terrible things happen to children, but drowning is one that with care can be avoided.

There was a television personality - can't remember her name - white punky hair, Scottish - whose daughter was brain-damaged after falling into the next-door-neighbour's garden pond.

Actually I hate water.

Ah right. You addressed me using a quote i didn't write.

That clarifies everything for me

Hang on Lynehamrose read though it again -

"SpringchickenGoldBrass and lynehamrose I think saying to another poster that "you need to know what abuse is" is awful, really awful.

This idea of subsequent posters, including yourselves, then laughing at Gooseberry seemed like you were enjoying joining in the ill-will that has been directed to Gooseberry."

Gosh, I thought it was awful Lynehamrose. Does that clarify it for you? I hope so. I didn't think it was funny, or hysterically funny, or lol, or worthy of classic status.

through it, not though it...

Doesn't clarify anything actually , but I certainly have found aspects of this thread hysterically funny.
No one has said they find the fact that people drown funny at all- which seems to disappoint some people.

Oh anna it's pointless. Happy to lmao at stupidity, crassness, happy to condone abuse, but frightfully po and in a fog of deliberate misunderstanding where her own dignity is concerned.

Anyway thanks but most of all I think your suggestion to MNHQ is frightfully good. Really good and I hope they take it up and run with it.

That will do far more for water safety than fending of attacks here so well done.

Hopefully am off now.

LH - you and your little gang of pals have posted some of the most incoherent, irresponsible and offensive remarks I have ever seen on this site. And on top of it all, you personally think a thread about drowning children is so funny it should be preserved to amuse people for all time.

You must be so proud.

I hope I never cross paths with you again.

Not sure who LH is but I bet the feeling is mutual

god you embarrass yourself

Do you?

This wasn't 'a thread about drowning children' until you weighed in. To be honest, I think you must be a little odd, and possibly not very well suited to forum life.

I think you must also be a little odd, for not imagining that the possibility of drowning would arise on a thread about children's water safety, and are possibly not very well suited to discussions of this nature if that's difficult for you to understand.

Of course you won't mind the personal nature of those remarks.

Of course not. One can only take offence at the remarks of another if one believes there is a possibility that they may be correct. If one is secure in the knowledge that the other is wrong, how could their comments offend?

As, of course, you know....

What a coincidence that the rnli has a banner advert pop up, now on MN? Talk about an apt bit of product placement.

< Anna tootles off the thread for good, humming along to that coldplay song ... with those great lyrics ...I wanna live my life and not be cruel....>

I'm afraid it must be only too true that you are unable to conceive of the possibility of children drowning on a thread about children's water safety.

I'm also bound to tell you it is very possible to be offended by some of the very disgusting abuse directed at me - but you wouldn't know that, would you....

What a weird idea that abuse must be true to be offensive.

Surely if it's not true and there are lies it's more offensive?

Don't get your idea at all. Very topsy turvy and rather silly.

Excellent advice on beach safety.

Your perceception of "abuse" is very subjective Gooseberry.

You must have led a rather sheltered and protected life if you consider the comments made towards you on this thread as "abuse".

You seem to be one of those sensititive, pearl clutching, lace hanky wringing types that takes offence with anyone who disagrees with you.

I referred to remarks and comments, such as mine that you may be odd, and yours likewise. I mentioned no abuse - unless you feel that my noticing your oddities was abusive?

Also I notice you frequently use many posts where one would suffice - I find this odd too.

Really? How odd. Quite a lot of people agree with me, fortunately, which is why people can't read how revolting it was. Speaks of a more objective opinion. Just because you think it's well justified - I think it says more about you than me.

I think, squeaky, that you have just wandered into 'vile abuse' territory. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Oh, and soz but, LMAO!

Whatever are you talking about? I refer only to the conversation between ourselves. I didn't see the comments from other posters that you found offensive, as you'd had them deleted before I came across this thread. I certainly haven't seen anything revolting, and I haven't said that anything was justified or otherwise. I have simply commented that I, personally, having read your input, find you a little odd.

Most people havent seen the removed posts. (I did see them). So they assume you were given some really nasty horrendous abuse. (you werent). The way you have bleated on and on and on about those posts since, when nobody can see them, is utterly ridiculous, and if you hadnt been so trigger happy on the report button, and let them stay, I am damn sure there would be even less people agreeing with you, and plenty more of the opinion that you are a little drama queen who enjoys playing the victim.

I've "bleated" on (is it impossible for you to post without being insulting?) because people keeping "bleating on" that it "wasn't abuse really, honest, it really wasn't. Really didn't do anything wrong miss. Honest."

No, not honest: it was abusive, and if you'll just stop saying it wasn't, I will stop saying it was.

And while you're here why don't you explain to LH why her aged relative shouldn't swim alone, which she came over rather unnecessary about earlier. Given that you've posted that, it's probably best that you explain, as she doesn't seem satisfied with the explanations she's already got.

"little drama queen"? are you joking? It just is so obvious that you have to insult, insult, insult because what you were saying was so wrong, so self contradictory, so inconsistent.

So you want to silence someone who disagrees with you by insulting them? How very mature. Oh sorry, I meant to say, ridiculous.

Oh is LH me????

Slightly random set of initials to use for my username! Still, quite in keeping with the lack of logic in the rest of GOB's posts