To have left my son asleep in the car..

[monkeyfacegrace]

On the driveway, in the shade (for those boring ones of you),

while I dragged my husband-to-be indoors for a good hard sunny day lunchtime shag

Ok, well "sleep" well. And apologies if I came across harsh, but accidents happen, so I think it's best you take the criticism (but not the insults) on board, foor next time.

"Ok, maybe the majority of comments aren't disgraceful, but there have been enough breathtakingly nasty misogynistic swipes that sadly just confirm for me that mostly women are women's own worst enemies."

I very much agree with the above statement.

But... after reading the summary of the situation and back a few pages from the end of the thread, I am still not impressed in the least by OP's leaving her son in the car... even when he is used to it, which is not good IMO

Chelmsford is not far from London and we would have had the same weather today (please correct me if I am wrong). It was a VERY hot day today, especially to be leaving a baby in the car, window open or not.

My DP is shocked by OP leaving her LO in the car regularly, as am I (had to get second opinion on this). And doesn't it get MUCH hotter in a car than it is outside??

OP, it is just irresponsible full stop.

At the same time, I am sure you have had some very questionable comments on MN today, but you baited for it by posting this. Frankly I question why??

I hope you don't leave the LO in the car like this anymore, cold or warm weather aside.

I would just not bother defending yourself on here because it will go nowhere as people will want to get the last comment in regardless of what you say.

TBH I dunno, I still wonder if this is just someone on the wind up.

I wish you luck OP, might be time for a name change??

Phew, that took ages to read!

I think it was a mistake, but about the shag...

a) Sex is v important, this whole "why are you being so selfish?" thing seems weird to me. Perhaps all those po-faced MNers would prefer her to stick to infrequent, run of the mill sex and then post in relationships when the cracks start to show? How good would that be for the children?

b) Why is it boasting to mention this? An internet forum seems a good place to mention something which might be oversharing in RL. I actually find it quite encouraging!

c) Starting off in the car...we've done this LOADS of times, whilst driving and wiht kids in the back. It is v rare (in fact, can't think of when) to have the opportunity to carry through, but seriously, the brain is WAY the most erogenous zone, she didn't have to have her hand down his pants whilst he was driving. "Flirty comments" (which would go straight over a 2.5 yr old's head) would definitely do it.

So grow up all of you who've criticized her for that.

well...

i was just about to post on this thread when the dog scratched to go out, and just as i opened the patio door a rather large spider dropped down my pyjama top.

sums the reactions up on this thread to a T!
one word
hysterical.

(i did scoop up spidey and pop him back outside after i got over the shock)

I was just about to comment on the sex issue too but Timeforanap has said it well enough already.

laughed out loud at some of the comments....

how disgusting to have sex in the afteroon! so ill just carry on reading a bit more and a bit more just so i can get disgusted a bit more...

its all a bit 'digusted of tunbridge wells' isnt it!

some people truly do need to get out more. or try
s
e
x
in the afternoon.

the baby was fine. op says clearly in no danger. of all the things ive seen on here to judge this sits fairly low on my judgey pants scale...

I loooove sex in the afternoon

Op is clearly naive as she admitted about the added heat in cars an how it affects children and said she learned something form this - so no - the baby wasn't necessarily 'safe'. The sex and leaving children to sleep in cars ( unless temps are dangerous) are a different thing entirely and IMO shouldn't really be the issue.

This is obviously a joke.

By a complete twat.

wow op you really did get a flaming, pmsl at 'is he the father?' and 'you slaggg'

however, i dont think you took the flaming gracefully, you have acted like a twat pretty much through out, which seemed to get people backs up even more

What the rest said. I'd have delicately placed sleeping child onto settee in front room and disappeared upstairs for a quick bonk. I think, given the heat, and security issues of leaving a naked child in the car with windows wound down, it would've been a bit safer. Never mind, next time eh?

Also lmao at 'at least I've read more than Sharon Osbourne's autobiography' Love a bit of literary snobbery of a Saturday night.

Wow! There are some pretty horrid attitudes in this thread. She left him in the car for a few minutes while he was asleep for FUCK sake. She didn't beat him black and blue or sell him to a paedophile.

Good god I've left mine in the car sleeping on numerous occasions. OK so not in the soaring heat (which in my part of Scotland isn't that often!!), but you're near by and all the doors or windows are open and it's not in the direct sunlight then there is very little harm going to come to anyone.

How ridiculous. You think people are angry at you having sex while your child cooks in a car because they are not having any sex? Bloody hell .

Timeforanap- don't disagree with you at all, but WHY did the op post?
She clearly WASN'T actually asking whether she was unreasonable, as she had no intention of taking on board the advice.
Which leaves many of us feeling that this was a rather pathetic little boast about a 2 minute shag. Felt like something a 15 yr old might say. Thats all.

"She left him in the car for a few minutes while he was asleep for FUCK sake."

Hehe! Literally

Oh for heavens sake, what ridiculous comments. The OP was the only one who was present and able to do a risk assessment - she knows the layout of her drive, the crime statistics etc and she decided that a nappy and the boot/windows open n the shade for a couple of minutes was fine. I for one trust her judgement. She has indicated that if her DS was clammy, or was hotter etc she wouldn't have left him.

If the OP had said she had just run in for 2 mins to unload the frozen shopping, I don't think she would have been flamed. I reckon it's just the thought that she and her DP were, tsk, having sex that's got everyone going. It's like MN has turned into a bunch of Norah Batties, hoisting their bosoms and folding their arms in disapproval.

monkeyfacegrace i think some people on here need to take their heads out of their arses. must admit what you did isnt something i could do but you know better than anyone on here, id be sweating too much he may have woken up. but jeez cant remember the last time i had a quickie! that was way before kids lol

so sad some of the responses on here i think the reason could be many people just arent getting enough GOOD sex, loosen up

lolol at 'for fuck sake'

No I don't think the OP took the fmaling gracefully either, but why the bleeding hell should she when she is being called a slag and people saying 'oh is he the baby's father' amongst other stuff. Good on her for giving as good as she got without flouncing with a fit of the vapours.

I still think what she did was daft because it was so hot, but she read that link earlier and admitted that it was a stupid thing to do and she won't do it again.

The rest of it was just gratuitous insulting, imo.

Totally disagree. The op didn't explain at the start that she had left the boot open, checked for clamminess, that the car was up a long safe private driveway and it was just for two minutes etc. I posted before she drip fed those things, saying, how horribly uncomfortable it must have been because as we all know, being in a stationary car on a boiling day isn't pleasant. The possible risk of crime didn't occur to me tbh because thats so unlikely.

AFTER the op had drip fed all the mitigating circumstances - time frame, boot open etc, my view changed to -okaaay, clearly she had done a risk assessment, no problems ... So WHY post at all! Which leads me' to feel rather sorry for someone who needs to boast about getting a 2 minute shag from their partner!

the venom on this iste is unreal, like a cross examination in a court of law. why spit the venom ladies, what exactly is missing from your life that you have exude such vapours on here

very odd

I still want to know how to cool a sleeping child in slow moving/stationary traffic.....

We took most of our family holidays in Wales when I was wee (old Y reg VW Polo - no air-con) and from I was old enough to remember there featured long spells of sitting in traffic in the heat, listening to Dave Lee Travis.

I don't remember having someone fanning me or plying me with ice-lollies while I was awake, let alone while I was asleep.

So what's the difference between broiling to death in a metal box for four hours on one's way to Llandudno, and lying naked in shaded car in a driveway for five minutes??

I remember trips like that malkie! Theres not a lot of difference tbh. In fact the only difference is that if you're stuck in slow moving traffic, its a pain, but you're going somewhere with a purpose, whereas leaving a child in that situation once you've arrived is pointless! Having said that, these days many cars have air con so travelling is a lot less tedious than in yesteryear. Oh and we don't have to suffer DLT either!

My only feeling about all this is WHY did the op post?!!

It isn't because people are not having sex. It is because the OP was having sex and not doing anything that needed to be done like bringing in shopping or having a quick wee.

God do you remember the smell of hot cars in the 70s/80s.

A mix of hot vinyl seat covers boiling to death, fag smoke, dust and ancient remnants of vomit.