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To resent having to make DCs call MIL midweek when she already speaks to them every weekend?

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minimuffin · 07/02/2011 13:38

Sorry, another MIL one

MIL is elderly but in good health, DH is her only son and she is on her own but she has large extended family nearby who she sees daily. So she's not isolated. She lives a long way away and comes to stay with us about once every 6 - 8 weeks. DCs are her only grandkids - they are 2 and 5. I am 6 months pg with DC3 and DH has a really stressful job and works long hours. I am SAHM with no help, but not complaining. I'm pretty busy most of the day.

She sets great store by speaking to DCs as her way of keeping in touch with them - fair enough - and DH rings her diligently every weekend to talk to her and to get DCs to speak to her. DS1 never wants to speak - can't understand what she's saying half time, and she witters on to him about people he doesn't know, places he doesn't know etc, tries to get him to sing songs with her in an old dear way. Sometimes DH has to bribe him to come to phone and it can be painful to watch - we also have to do it on speakerphone so we can translate for DCs and her as they spend half time talking at cross purposes. It's a PITA. I've said I think he risks breeding resentment there and I don't like it but I have just stepped back and let him get on with it. He says if he doesn't force DS1 to speak, she will start to feel distant from him and will want to come and stay more, which neither of us wants so I do see his POV.

ANYWAY, once a week is apparently not enough for her. Since DS1 was born 5 years ago we have had an issue which just won't go away which is that MIL would love me to call her in the week too, to have a chat and let her speak to DCs. My relationship with her is civil and friendly - there has never been a cross word exchanged - but I basically have zero in common with her, no natural affinity with her or affection for her, and find some of her behaviour towards DCs and me thoughtless and deeply irritating. All usual MIL stuff. She irritates the pants off me and has never said anything of any value to me. I have never, not once, thought in an idle moment that I'd pick up the phone and have a chat to her. We just don't have that kind of relationship, although I know she'd love nothing more than a DIL who is on the phone to her every day for a chinwag, filling her in on every little detail of our lives... But you'd think after 5 years she might have twigged that it just ain't gonna happen.

So... she has phoned a lot in daytime recently and left messages (as I'm out a lot). I call back occasionally but mostly don't on basis I don't have time or inclination and I know DH will speak to her at weekend. She called him this weekend in floods of tears saying she felt she was losing touch with DCs. DH does not need the stress of worrying about her - he has a lot on his plate at the mo - and he has begged me to call her once a week, midweek, to make her feel more involved, for his sake. I understand totally where he's coming from and want to help him, but I really effing resent it - only time when DS1 is around is after school - he's tired, it's hard enough getting him to do his words and reading. I'm knackered - walk to school and back to get him is 1 hour round trip as I get bigger and slower. I don't want to have to force DS1 to speak to her (DS2 happy enough at mo to speak) and I don't want to listen to her inane stories when i have 101 other things to do.

Really stressed about it and furious with her for being so pushy - what would you do? Should I just take a deep breath and call her once a week for DH's sake? Why is her weekend chat not enough given she knows how busy we all are? Does anyone have a 5 year old who loves nothing more than to ring their gran? Think she expects a lot of them. Just trying to do a sense check (and let off some steam, sorry for the long-windedness.... phew! Thanks for listening!)

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Suchffun · 07/02/2011 16:52

Can I repeat my bedtime story suggestion? (feeling invisible)

JamieLeeCurtis · 07/02/2011 16:57

Suchfun (love the name) - yes - that was a good idea. I did notice it.

MarineIguana · 07/02/2011 16:58

God minimuffin I agree with whoever said you are a saint! I have a 5yo son and trying to make him talk on the phone when he didn't feel like it would be hell - on top of the stress of everything else you need to do and being pg.

This woman gets a proper phone call once a week, has a conscientious and devoted son (and he is her relative not you), she sees your family regularly and she's still pushing it. I also agree that if you give people like this what they want, they will demand more and more.

You are a busy mum and pregnant - what you need, and what is best for your children (getting a break after school not extra pressure) should come first.

And it is so not just about 10 minutes is it? It's about the expectation and the duty, having to remember, feeling pushed around and controlled by someone's neediness. Horrible.

princessparty · 07/02/2011 17:00

Poor woman! Yoiu sound incredibly selfish.I can't understand how your Ds is SOO exhausted after school he can't get utter a few words down the telephone to his doting gran.

MarineIguana · 07/02/2011 17:02

Princessparty I don't think the OP is selfish at all - on the contrary she does a lot to keep her MIL happy. More than many of us would.

However even if she WAS selfish, so she damn well should be because she's 6 months pregnant. Why doesn't the MIL care about the strain on her? MIL in this situation should be saying "don't worry about me I can catch up when I next see you, can I bring anything?"

MsKLo · 07/02/2011 17:02

Please mini ignore the 'you are selfish' posts

What uttter tosh
You are not selfish!

jangly · 07/02/2011 17:10

Can't you explain to her that she needs to make the phone calls more interesting. That its no good her wittering on about people he doesn't know and stuff he doesn't care about. Get her to ask him questions about his everday doings. She needs to encourage him to do the talking and she must just listen patiently. I am a granny and I find actually that phone calls from the litlle-ies can get a bit boring at times, - but I wouldn't miss 'em for the world! Grin
I think you or your DH just have a frank talk with her.
And if she won't make the effort, well, she will have to miss out.

BabyDubsEverywhere · 07/02/2011 17:11

SELFISH! She has her to stay every 6 weeks! She needs a bloody medal!

BabyDubsEverywhere · 07/02/2011 17:12

Unless you make her sleep in a tent? that would be a bit shitty, perfectly understandable, but a bit shitty Grin

diddl · 07/02/2011 17:13

I think YANBU.

You have nothing in common-trying to talk to my MIL is quite frankly fucking excruciating.

My worst nightmare would be her wanting to speak to me once a week-and husband thinking it was reasonble!

I´d tell him if he was so worried to give her a call himself.

Is she worried that she´ll she less of him when new baby is here?

minimuffin · 07/02/2011 17:23

Oh goodness, so many posts! Think I might have to run away...! Just called her - both Ds's refused to speak to her. One woken grumpy from nap, other wanting me to read his school book with him. Painful. She just wanted a chat with me - done, 10 mins. Weird thing is in the 10 years DH and I have been together, as I said originally, I have never, ever just called her for a chat and in the 5 years since DS born she has been pushing and pushing me for this relationship. Iguana sums it up - the expectation, the duty, the pressure - i just wish it wasn't part of my life but it is. Thanks for support those on my side (BabyDubs will you be on my team!!). And yes diddl it occurred to me that she's maybe a bit panicky that when new baby comes we're (DH and I) going to have even less time than we have now so maybe she's trying to get midweek conversations as a regular thing so that we'll keep them up once new arrival here. Need cold towel...

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diddl · 07/02/2011 17:29

Blimey you´re a star!

Let´s hope this doesn´t mean she can keep asking for other things & they will happen-especially if she turns on the tears!

Perhaps if she has been phoning a lot lately & missing you she might think that you are deliberately ignoring her?

minimuffin · 07/02/2011 17:33

Yes she called me twice last week from her sister's mobile and I did wonder if she was testing me to see if I screen her calls. It's like she's upping the ante. Also DH taking DCs to see her not really an option - it involves a flight so it's £300 min per visit. Hence we go to her about twice a year as it makes more sense financially for her to come here. Right, kids to feed...

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JamieLeeCurtis · 07/02/2011 17:34

How old is she?

BabyDubsEverywhere · 07/02/2011 17:34

You know what happens in our house when the phone rings and i cba, my non talking but gurgle babble little one answers it so i never knew theyd called, and they get to listen to little one watching cbeebies. [evil emoticon!]

Most people ring DH directly now Grin

JamieLeeCurtis · 07/02/2011 17:36

When the phone rings in my house, my DSs decide to engage in hand-to-hand combat. Every time

Needanewname · 07/02/2011 17:43

YABU

Put yourself in her position in 30 years time. How would you feel?

You don;t have to become best friends, but just a quick hello, how are you? We're all well, children a bot tired tonight so please don't be offended if they're not chatty, I'm sure they'll feel better at the weekend when you speak etc etc

I also have nothing in common with my MIL and (not so much now) she'll call up and after the heelos, how are yous she doesn;t say anything and its up to me to make small talk even though she called! Drives me mad but there you go, she just wants to say hi to her son, grandchildren and DIL - is that really so bad?

I think its also good that you do make the children talk to her on the phone, they understand from a young age there are certain things that just have to be done, whether you like it or not, obviously it would be nicer all round if they wanted to talk.

What about your MIL reading a story over the phone?

minimuffin · 07/02/2011 17:45

She's 75 but fit as a fiddle, in possession of all marbles etc!

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diddl · 07/02/2011 17:47

But MIL has her son & GC to talk to!

I can´t see the point of phoning someone you don´t like/get on with-unless you are all they´ve got tbh.

Seems, well, phoney!

Megglevache · 07/02/2011 17:51

Skype or send a little card once a week, alot easier IMO.

Sounds like a pain in the rear but thank your lucky stars she isn't two roads away and haunting your every move Grin

Seriously, I'd find sending an a4 sheet with a summary and a photo a hell of a lot easier than having to do all the pretence of a gushing phone convo.

Alternatively you could just sit your dc round and force them to speak on the phone Grin, surely if they are so against it a 20 second silence then moaning from your children isn't really going to do much for your MIl is it?

clam · 07/02/2011 17:52

So if she calls when you're out, isn't that a good thing? Means you've missed her. I'm afraid that I wouldn't call back, either. I hate being manipulated and I will not speak on the phone if I'm not in the mood - even to friends, I'm afraid. I either let it ring, or threaten tell the kids to pass for me.

clam · 07/02/2011 17:54

And actually, the real reason this would annoy me so much is that it's totally not unreasonable for her to want a mid-week chat. And therefore my rage and resentment would be fuelled by guilt!

Decorhate · 07/02/2011 17:55

Is she old enough to possibly be having memory problems? Might explain the repeated phoning at awkward times. My aunt who has dementia will often leave several messages on my parents answering machine if they are out when she calls. If she phones me at a bad time I just tell her that & call her back later.

I find it better to be quite firm with needy people! Once my mother starts wittering in about people I don't know it's time to tell her I am in the middle of checking for nits or something...

Your MIL sees & talks to her gcs quite a lot considering. My kids hate
talking on the phone - the only time I make them is if someone
phones up to wish them a happy birthday.

JamieLeeCurtis · 07/02/2011 17:55

clam - I am antisocial too. I feel undue pressure from phonecalls. Friends look at me askance when I tell them this in RL.

minimuffin · 07/02/2011 17:56

Bedtime story over phone a nice idea and I might give it a try but I can see it descending into farce. 2 restless kids and she has quite a strong accent so they often get crossed wires as to what's been said. I think I'm going to bite bullet and call once a week when DS1 at school, get DS2 to speak. If she's out just leave message and leave it at that - conscience clear, duty done etc... I am writing a letter to self of what not to do/say to future DILs. Her behaviour is odd (dont' want to get into it all here) but she is of a different generation and slightly different culture from me and my folks and I have just tried to factor that in when she's sitting on my bed at 6.30 am when I'm trying to breastfeed... or when she's trying to wrestle one of DCs from me to cart them off to her bed when they wake in middle of night... or when she arrives to see us once a baby arrives and doesn't ask me how I'm doing but asks DH how much blood there was Hmm. Can you tell i'm stressed?

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