to go of a friend who has just been on a sex tourist trip to Thailand?

[Hairyjumper]

Single male friend, just been on 2 weeks holiday where he paid women to fuck him.
Have had quite a cerebral discussion with him about it.
He says it is not seedy , no pimps blah blah.

I thought I was open minded but it just seems wrong.

ninja...this thread isn't about "services for the disabled"

Ninjacuckoo within your question is the implication that getting sex for a man is a basic right.

Um, actually, it's not.

Do you know any disabled women who pay sex workers to fuck them because they can't get it any other way?

ah ok, HJ

I guess the reason people (including me) were speculating is because you seemed to be so keen to be persuaded that what he did was ok

I guess lots of us struggled with (and still do) how you could still be friends with someone like that

or even partnered with them

so, while I appear to have grabbed your attention again, amidst all the wordsoup...

has this thread made your mind up one way or the other, or are you fence-sitting ?

if so...what would make your mind up that someone wasn't worthy of your friendship ?

Ninjacuckoo within your question is the implication that getting sex for a man is a basic right

Is there? Well there certainly wasn't when I typed it. "Getting sex" isn't a basic right of anyone IMO.

Do you know any disabled women who pay sex workers to fuck them because they can't get it any other way?

Possibly, but to date they haven't mentioned it. It does happen though, men aren't the only people with sexual needs.

The reason I am so utterly shocked at this is that I have known only a handful of men in my (long) life who have used prostitutes . None of them were friends nor ever likely to become friends.

I am really shocked at this friend's behaviour and am somewhat relieved that my shockedness is not a surprise to the majority here ,(if that makes sense) but some of the attacks here on him ( and me) are way out of order.

I dont appreciate the way some people on MN viciously turn on those who don't take the majority view on sensitive issues. Andre's point about bullying is very valid

Nobody has a need to sexually exploit anyone else actually, whether they are disabled or not.

And yes, unless the sex worker in question has some seriously better choices, (for example, she has turned down the job of Managing Director of IBM, or a proposal of marriage from Enrique Iglesias), then yes, she's being exploited just like most sex workers.

and again you side step my direct question < shrugs >

Enrique wears a syrup

just sayin'

Oh FGS no-one is viciously turning on anyone else. People are arguing their case and giving short shrift to long winded ponderous posts designed to bore everyone off the thread.

He wears a syrup?

What pray, do you mean by that?

rhyming slang, innit

AF, I was not really keen to be convinced it was ok and I apologise if I gave that impression -I repeatedly stated I thought it was far from okay. I was just completely open to a debate on it and wanted to get over the complete revulsion feel at what he did. He THINKS HE DID NO WRONG AT ALL.

Everyone here who does not know him immediately thinks " sex tourist - knobhead", and I would have thought the same.
But this is a living breathing , lovely friend and I am really really sad.

sorry, what question, AF?

< looks and sounds a bit ridiculous since I am a Manc, not a bleedin' Cockernee >

Oh lord HerBeX - Syrup of Fig>>> WIG

Rhad, you are putting words into my mouth, it's perfectly possible to be concerned about both.

hj...my question was "has this thread changed your mind at all" ?

nothing attacking in my question, btw, just curiosity

hj...which group of people is most deserving of your concern, do you think ?

Rhad, because the bullying gets in the way of intelligent debate about an important subject

he does, doesn't he, LMHF ?

hairy, your friend IS "living breathing , lovely friend"

but he is also a Sex Tourist.

Sex Tourists are SCUM, Knobhead even.

Up to you if you are able to close your eyes to the reprehensible actions of someone you thought was a decent person.

Newsflash: You were wrong.

It's OK to be wrong.

No, it has not changed my mind at all, it has confirmed it.

Hairyjumper you don't need to be apologetic or defensive about your feelings of revulsion.

They are natural and normal. The rest of society will tell you you're uptight, get with the programme man, but they're wrong and we're right.

I don't care he's still gorgeous (Enrique, not the OP's sordid friend)