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To ask my 14 and 12 year old sons to help with the household chores?

217 replies

BevMidge · 18/01/2011 16:37

It seems to me that most kids these days dont feel they should help out at home. Am I the only mum who feels guilty for putting my foot down? I have taken away their x boxes and other tech stuff to try to get them to understand. The way they leave their rooms is really not for here but I can say it is really minging !!!

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IwishIwasabodenmum · 19/01/2011 22:31

I expect my DDs to do chores (for which they earn pocket money).

DD (4) is expected to: make her bed, take out breakfast bowl / dinner plate etc after eating, put dirty clothes in linen basket, help tidy her room before bed, put her shoes and coat away, get her clothes out and ready for the next day.

DD (7) is expected to do all of the above plus: Get her bags ready for school / hobbies the next day, lay the dinner table, get drinks ready and serve them at the dinner table, dusting.

I think I serves them well to be expected to help out - then they'll grow up doing it, and as they get older, more responsibilities get added (but with that comes the chance to earn more money) and so it never becomes a battle / fight when they are suddenly expected to it. My two girls have had chores from about 3 years old!

mumblecrumble · 19/01/2011 22:39

Really please folks as my Mum was a bit surpirse at all we expect DD to help with. Think when I was young my Mum was surprised at all I wanted to do for myself. At 13 I did my own washing, cooked some dinners, cleaned my own room and dsid stuff round the house but my um wasn;t so keen.... bit territorial I suspect,

I often say to DD aged 3 that we are a family so we all help each other. She is encouraged to do the following - clear up afer herself after meals, help mummy put washing in the machine, help Daddy wth his jobs [usually she likes to hold things and count things]. She has a little jug I keep a fw inches of juice in in the fridge so she can get herself a drink or fruit if she wants it. She dresses herself and puts washing in the bin.

Her main job is as my best shopping buddy.... excellent at counting out carrots, reminding me that chicken starts with a ch sound etc.

She is also asked to ask people how their day has been and to close the doors if Mummy is tired and has just sat down and fogotten to shu the door [er... this I feel a little guilty about.... but she does get very looked after in other area. E.g. I wipe her bottom.... I think that evens it out...]

High expectations.... but expect novelty will run out......

mumblecrumble · 19/01/2011 22:41

She is also good at making toast and putting things in the microwave [supervised!]

I find that some kitchen dancing helps the chores go quick....

mathanxiety · 19/01/2011 22:52

'YOU are not doing your sons any favours by doing this.'

You are not doing other women any favours either...

verybusyspider · 19/01/2011 23:19

by the time I was 9 I could cook our dinner - it was never amazing (I think my mum and dad had to eat some rubbish before I got the hang of it and most of it was done in the microwave and always supervised - obviously) it was part of our rountine, sit down on Sunday plan meals and fight with my brother which day we'd cook, my parents worked full time we all did our share. We all shared ironing and washing, its not inappropriate to get teenagers to do their own school uniform.

I hope my ds's will do the same, they are 4, 3 and 1 and the older 2 help clear the table every meal time and my 4 yr old wipes the table after - I figure if they do it now it will become the norm and not a 'job' just helping.

I saw too many people turn up to university totally unequiped for real life, by letting them do chores you are teaching them how to function in the real world. That extends to getting children to write cheques for you to sign for school trips and knowing how to pay bills and money into the bank.

thumbdabwitch · 20/01/2011 00:44

DS is 3.1. He helps with the laundry, with wiping the table, getting his own cutlery out of the drawer (heading towards setting the table later), sweeping up, putting his toys away, emptying the dishwasher, baking, carrying the shopping (if I have a bag light enough for him). All of this he wants to do - and if I would let him near the oven, he'd help cook too (obviously I don't!)

His father (DH) does no housework apart from in the kitchen - he does some cooking and some washing up/cleaning the kitchen - oh, and he irons his own shirts (I Don't Iron). When DS and I went back to the UK for 3 weeks, DH did NO washing up because his MOTHER came over and DID IT ALL FOR HIM. I was furious. She is an utter enabler and it makes me mad as fire when she indulges her sons in the name of "helping out". Gah!

I absolutely will NOT allow DS to grow up like that - I will be getting him to help out with chores the whole time, as we had to when we were DC (dusting and hoovering were my jobs - I still don't dust, mind you, hate it because my parents had so many bastard ornaments!) and making sure that he is a fully functional, stand-on-his-own-two-feet adult when he leaves home. AND that he doesn't expect any female he hooks up with to take over just because she's female.

weathershore · 20/01/2011 06:57

My charges all have to help clear up after a playdate eldest will help with the youngest homework keep an eye on her while i am cookking.
Youngest has been chooping veg since she was 2 all load the dish washer only washing in the laundary basket gets done eldest will often walk on ahead and open the front door if we all have lots to carry

Truckulente · 20/01/2011 07:21

I would have thought unless the DC see their Dad is doing an equal share they will think housework is women and children's work and not men's work.

msbossy · 20/01/2011 07:49

YANBU but at their age there probably needs to be something in it for them.

From a young age DB and I were expected to help (unpack shopping, wash up, tidy up etc). We were also encouraged to help with all jobs like gardening, cleaning cars, cooking, and even decorating. I look back with admiration that they did this and never showed frustration at us getting in the way or making jobs harder. Grin

In our teens if we wanted an allowance DB had to clean and I had to iron. The expectation and reward were very clear and it was good to learn that you HAD to do it even when you had other commitments and really didn't feel like it. V good life lessons.

I don't agree with passing all responsibility to younger children. DH was expected to do the washing up and Hoover and tidy after 3 younger siblings every day before his Dad got home Sad

Lamorna · 20/01/2011 08:08

Surely their Dad is doing an equal share Truckulente, or did he have a mother who did everything for him? Either they copy the Dad who is capable, or you make sure that you break the cycle early on!

BevMidge · 20/01/2011 09:28

I guess I have been misguided, but I am being firm, I certainly dont want my boys to grow up expecting their future partners to wait on them hand and foot. My eldest 14 year old has had a transformation and is now waking up on time and tidying up after himself. My 12 year old is putting up a bit of a grumpy offence, but I think now they both know I mean business. Its tough love from me, but I think we might get there. (smile)

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HSMM · 20/01/2011 09:48

My 11 yr old DD does bits and pieces under protest. At least she knows how to wash clothes, clean a bathroom, make dinner, wash floors, etc. Her main chore she has just taken on is to iron her own school shirts. DH (ex army) sweats when he sees what a crap fantastic job she is doing. She has started keeping her own bedroom immaculate since a talk from the fire brigade, showing how fast a fire spreads in a room covered in clothes, toys, etc.

macmama · 20/01/2011 10:40

Umm i agree kids should help (although my mum spoiled all of us).

But I would say that my younger DSS (now 17ish) used to HATE helping with anything and now he is extremely helpful young man even does things without asking. He used to go on a lot of camps where the kids were encouraged to do everything themselves and that made a HUGE positive difference in him.

Cassandra63 · 20/01/2011 10:51

I came home from work last week to find my 17 year old son and rearranged my sitting room, tidied it through and vacuumed the stair and landing carpet. He did try washing his clothes, firstly in the dryer and then with the washer without detergent. He's a good lad though as I am going through an acrimonious divorce and we have had to start a new life 80 miles away

Irate · 20/01/2011 11:02

I think kids should be expected to help and not for bribery but for the good of the whole family. When 15yr old DD cant be assed forgets to do her chores (wash up twice, bedroom tidy, cook once p/wk, look after baby DS when I cook every day)I remind her that I clean the toilet out of the goodness of my heart and would she like to swap chores. Even our 3 yr old DS helps lay/clear table for dinner, cleans up toys and helps cook(quite irritating)every day. I genuinely need help in the house and I want to help prepare the children for adult life.

MummyFairyCake · 20/01/2011 11:14

When I was working full-time, we would have a big cleaning session one morning of the weekend when everyone in the house had to help. Changing bedding, cleaning bathrooms and all through the house and generally tidying up. Through the week I may have asked for a hand with loading/unloading the diwshwasher, clearing plates etc. but this was on a 'as needed' basis.

Now I have more time I do more, but I still continue with the mass-clean periodically so that they all remember/learn how to do things and that if we all oull together as a team we can achieve a lot more, far more quickly.

My children are 6, 12, 15 and 17. I think it is vital that they know how to look after themselves by the time they leave home. If I don't show them, who else will?

IMO: learning by example and doing things as part of a team is the best way to go.

TheVisitor · 20/01/2011 11:18

We do what we call flash tidying too. All of us converge upon one room and get it done in quick smart time. Works like a dream. Grin

Lemonylemon · 20/01/2011 11:24

My DS (13) thinks that it's his God-given right to sit around and do nothing but watch TV, eat food and play on his Wii.

I, on the other hand, have very different ideas. On my arrival home from work, he is made to clear up his mess from any room he has been into that afternoon, feed the cats, lay the table and do the washing up.

He has been tasked with cleaning his room for the past few weeks. He makes progress and then the next day it's back to where it was before. Pocket money has now been stopped until his room is tidy. Again.

drummersma · 20/01/2011 13:27

My DS (15) is responsible for his own room. If he wants it to look like a tip (as it usually does) then that's his choice, as long as he keeps the door closed. He isn't allowed to eat upstairs, so we don't have to deal with unidentified fungi growing on discarded plates up there. He occasionally blasts through the place, tidying, dusting and vacuuming, so we know he has the skills. He's even been known to clean the bathroom!

If I'm doing some washing, I'll happily throw in anything that's in the laundry basket. If DS doesn't put his clothes in there, then that's his problem. If all his school shirts are dirty and lying on his bedroom floor, then he'll just have to wear one of them until he's washed the rest. That doesn't happen so often now. Smile

He is responsible for ironing his own shirts and tee-shirts. In winter, that means he doesn't bother. He's decided that if things are put on hangers straight from the washing machine, they are fine to wear as is.

He also cooks one family meal each week and is building up a nice range of basic techniques and recipes.

The hardest part for me was having to step back and accept that, while I wanted him to do stuff, he wouldn't always do it my way. I DO iron shirts and tees, but he sees no harm in the odd wrinkle. Guess what? Nor do I now. Smile

FindingStuffToChuckOut · 20/01/2011 13:32

DD aged 3 puts her shoes in the shoe box, hangs her coat and scarf etc up, puts her dirty clothes in the laundry basket, books in the book box, pick up her own puzzles after she has done them & pick up pretty much all of her toys too. She loves it - loves the responsibility & the contributing.

YABU for starting so late Grin

skpetic · 20/01/2011 13:45

the earlier you start the easier it will be.

All chores too - by the time they are in their early teens they should be able to wash and iron their own clothes and cook a decent meal - mine did - and they are boys - men now - and my grandchildren do the same.

Indeed they help out on the farm - including artificially inseminating pigs - (that's the girls 17 & 16) the boys who are younger (7 & 4)chop firewood with a small axe - help in the kitchen - can make soup & bread.

All are doing exceptionally well at school and the girls have part-time jobs at waitrose too.

the eldest (17) paid for her own driving lessons bought her own car & paid for the insurance from her part-time job.

Give them responsibility and praise and see how they blossom.

Destini · 20/01/2011 13:45

I've been a single parent since my two boys were 3 & 5, (they are now 12 & 13).. I have since the split worked full time, both boys have helped with chores - the youngest being able to put on a wash from the age of 7! He knows how to split darks from whites, and if it needs 1 or 2 tablets.

I think making them do simple chores, allows them to become independent and also gives us time together as a family too. I have had one bad reaction to this, but a lot of young guys who worked in my team said they had wished they had been shown this at an early age! They both want to learn how to iron now which can only be a good thing!

I must add, homework always comes first and I do allow them enough time to play too.

mumof2girls2boys · 20/01/2011 15:49

I have 4 (10-3)and they all do their fair share of the chores, we have a whiteboard with a list of names and chores, and an additional note at the bottom saying "plus any other job given to you". My DS(6) really loves chores and will ask to do more (although I have unfortunately had to sop him from dusting as he uses a whole can of polish in one room!). The youngest DD(3) takes pride in making her bed every day,tidying her room and clearing her plates away, she will even ask if there is a room inspection (not sure where she got this from as we have never done it). My DD(10) and DS(8) are away at boarding school and we have had comments from the housemistress that they can tell they do chores at home as they don't complain when given them at school!!! (guess lots of the other kids don't help out at home)

You are preparing your children for life, as such they need life skills to succeed. Great having all the intelligence and education you can give them but if you move out and starve, or can't get a job as your clothes aren't clean your intelligence will do you no good.

welshlass78 · 20/01/2011 16:59

My D is now 13 and can bake a cake, iron, wash up and keep her room clean. I think they are life skills.. she started at 3yrs old by putting one set of toys away before getting more out :) shes fab and likes to help out, with her baby sister too :)

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