to think women writhing around in suspenders and stockings is...

[hatwoman]

...not really family viewing? I've barely watched x-factor in my life but I had thought everyone said that, for all its faults, it was something that had got families watching telly together. I was expecting wholesome boy bands and gutsy young girls. Clearly I'm naive and a prude.

Have just read this thread, and have to agree - in fact both DP and me commented on the fact it was pretty risque for 7.30 or thereabouts in the evening, considering it's so heavily promoted as a 'family show'. And I hate the fact that female singers seem to (or feel they have to, if they're mainstream pop rather than 'quirky' etc) buy into the gyrating, sex bunny look. I think the song was to promote a new film, Burlesque, which has somehow got a 12 certificate. Er, why?? it doesn't really seem right as a pre-teen subject.

By the way, must be v slow here but what does YANBU mean?! Thx

YANBU = You Are Not Being Unreasonable.
Use this knowledge wisely, my friend

Was not allowed to watch "Dallas" as a ten year old and so now a mother am determined not to over protect/control my children. So my 8 year old watched X Factor and OMG, the dance routines and burlesque really tested me. I opened up a debate with my 8 year old about who should/should not win and suitably distracted her.
then off for a baileys double

couldn't agree more! I have a teen now, so not a problem for me but I know that my goddaughter would have watched it and I think it is so demeaning!

Yes, the more I think about it the more I'm convinced that something should be done about it.
Does anyone know the best way to complain to ITV or the TV regulatory authority?
We have been told all week that Simon Cowell's show raked in millions of pounds per second in advertising revenue - I think he (or X Factor, whatever) should be heavily fined for showing this completely unsuitable nonsense before the watershed and during 'peak' viewing time for ITV.
I'd love to be able to wipe that smirk off his fat face.
Come on MNs lets all complain!!

I agee with the op YANBU

amijee.. reminds me of the python film.. any women here??? and all answer no... how silly..

sex is here.. it was more here in the 70s onm shows lioke the two ronnies!!!.. pehaps when some mumsnetters were in their cots... get over it.... grow up...

go live in a muslim country if you want to control women... unfortunatly the ones on here who complain have no idea about sensorship and how pervasive it is... live and let live in britain.... as said before and by amijee..

live in a muslin environment. as we did... throw away the guardian and actually learn about real life!!!!

oh and btw.. i wasnt allowed to sit in the front seat of our car in Saudi.. my ds was though aged 5.. not complaining at all.. we lived there and abided by their culture... fair enough.. but we business deal with this country...

female rights are hard won... all around the world.. if women want to strut their stuff then why not... i saw x factor and noone was naked for gods sake... boy bands show their chests... whats the difference... unless you feel womens bodies are somehow sacred/dirty/.... whole new thread...

I was horrified too. Have complained to Ofcom and ITV. HAte the thought of my dd growing up to think this is normal/desirable behaviour. Yuk. We are all becoming desensitied to porn - where will it end?

i watched the repeat (not live show) and so dont really feel i have grounds to complain but X factor is billed as a family show in a `family' saturday night slot and that was most definately not what I would call family friendly.

I have just re watched it and whilst my little ones are only 4 and 2 so wouldnt be up at that time I have to say I do agree with the majority it was a bit much & could have been tones well down without compromising on the theme, after all Christina is a mother herself now!

This wasn't just prancing around semi-clad it was proper gyrating and writhing worthy of a strip joint! I was shocked this was shown pre-watershed. My 14 yr old DD loves X Factor but is mature enough to know it's all nonsense, having said that she has wanted to wear padded bras since she was 12. Is it any wonder we hacve the highest tennage pregnancy rates in Europe?

A digression from the OP, but with all the talk of men in suits vs women in their pants in pop music, I went to see Scissor Sisters the other day - Ana Matronic wore a knee-length, flare-skirted dress with long sleeves and a high neckline (ok, it was made of PVC but she was pretty much covered up) and she not only had more sex appeal in her little finger than any of those dancers on the X factor, but she was also a brilliant performer - as are Christina A and Rihanna - so why do they do it? Do they really think no-one will buy their records unless they do this?

(Jake Shears on the other hand was bouncing around in a PVC bondage outfit that exposed his chest and made a feature of his package, but it was all strangely wholesome compared with the porno-lite on the X Factor...)

it's all a question of context, what is appropriate, a subjective matter, people will think diffrently. but to get what's good and constructive, uplifting and beneficial, you've got to kick at the darkness til it bleeds daylight, clearly this showing was inappropriate

I watched the film Burlesque last night and saw that Christina's performance of "Express" was in fact in the film with the same dancing and costumes.

If they have rated the film a 12A then it's a grey area really isn't it? Because i wouldn't have thought that post 9pm of the watershed would be for 12 years and up iyswim? I would say after the watershed, programmes can be for adult viewing ie 18+

So either Burlesque is rated too low and should be 15 or the XF isn't designed for under 12s?

What do you think?