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to think women writhing around in suspenders and stockings is...

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hatwoman · 11/12/2010 20:52

...not really family viewing? I've barely watched x-factor in my life but I had thought everyone said that, for all its faults, it was something that had got families watching telly together. I was expecting wholesome boy bands and gutsy young girls. Clearly I'm naive and a prude.

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mychatnickname · 13/12/2010 17:14

I was there muttering to dh about how I was glad I didn't have a daughter. It was entirely inappropriate and smutty.

Dh quite liked it Hmm but it should never have been on before the watershed when ITV knew that loads of kids would be watching.

Ternet · 13/12/2010 17:28

I couldn't believe it. Apparently Take That wanted to wear Police Helmets, however, considering the recent riots in London Simon Cowell thought it inappropriate. And Rhianna and Christina wasn't!!! they couldn't have tried harder if they had turned up naked. Totally off limits for family viewing.

HerBeatitude · 13/12/2010 17:32

Eddie Mair is going to be discussing this very soon on PM radio 4.

wishingchair · 13/12/2010 17:49

I was watching with my 8 year old and when Rhianna (completely needlessly) stripped off, she whipped off her PJs!! I was dismayed and then for that to be followed by Christina Aguilera's performance. Luckily DD was not impressed by that and thought it was a disgrace ... but I'd much rather have preferred she had never seen either of them.

Just awful for so many reasons.

And then to think that it is repeated on Sunday morning so even YOUNGER children can watch it. Will be making formal complaint.

IamnotStiller · 13/12/2010 17:51

Regarding the 12A rating of Burlesque having watched the trailer I wonder if Christina's performance on Saturday was a lot more "sexed up" and the stage shows in the movies are shown in a more subtle way emphasising on glamour rather than sex. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Concerning the issue of 'soft porn' music videos which can be watched throughout the day on MTV etc. - I used to enjoy music videos but now cannot stand them for exactly that reason. I don't let my DS's to watch them (they are not particularly interested at the moment) as I know what to expect.

JamieLeeCurtis · 13/12/2010 18:00

Thanks HerBeatitude

wishingchair · 13/12/2010 18:13

I've just complained to Ofcom.

I also don't have music channels on. Just don't need my DDS to see that.

sethstarkaddersmum · 13/12/2010 18:19

My friend's 4yo once said to me, after watching MTV and discussing it in the playground, 'Hey Sethsmum, I know what 'sexy' means. It's when you can see someone's bellybutton.'

biryani · 13/12/2010 18:26

Everyone knows that X Factor and shows like it are commercialised, over-hyped and trashy. So why watch it and then complain that it "isn't suitable" for family viewing? Surely that's bloody obvious!

1234ThumbScrew · 13/12/2010 18:28

I totally agree that it was not appropriate for family viewing, I don't want my dd's or my ds thinking this is what women do. I was rather proud of them all last night as they all said 'yuk' and hid their eyes.

HuwEdwards · 13/12/2010 18:33

For me. it wasn't the absence of clothes and the display of so much flesh it was the pole-dance movements, the simulation of sex moves - just crude and crass on a 'family' show.

mychatnickname · 13/12/2010 18:43

Wishing chair is spot on. Kids copy this stuff. How many of us started wanting to tear our skirts off after seeing Bucks Fizz (which was a whole lot more innocent)? Lots of little girls will be copying this.

IamnotStiller · 13/12/2010 19:02

I actually thought X-Factor was more suited to the young audience than to adults and was watching it more for the benefit of the DC's than my own (sort of guilty pleasure). I must admit, though, that we all lost interest half way through and will avoid watching it next year (although said the same last year and the year before...). Blush

SkaterGrrrrl · 13/12/2010 21:55

HerBeatitude is spot on.

My DD is 3 months old and I am deeply concerned about the world she has been born into, in particular the pornification of sexuality.

Why should the onus be on mums to change the channel?

Why cant we change the world instead?

Jix · 14/12/2010 09:49

Totally agree. It's not family viewing.. I couldn't watch it with my kids .. or with my elderly parents!!
In fact, have wondered why I'm watching it myself.
It's just cheap trashy TV and it's a shame.

zebedeethezebra · 14/12/2010 10:37

Totally agree. They were far too scantily dressed for pre-watershed viewing. I was quite appalled actually.

hellobob · 14/12/2010 11:03

I didn't see Christina, I saw a bit of Rhianna and wasn't impressed. Just clicked on the link above, good grief is all I can say. Why is it 'less is best' for women performers and men seem to be dressed normally all the time? I think my 14 yo daughter saw this, god it makes me sick.

AbsofCroissant · 14/12/2010 11:12

Why is there this law on music videos/performances that all women should be near as possible to naked, and men can wear what they like?

Butterbur · 14/12/2010 11:19

It seems to be an almost universal law, AbsofC. When I picked up DD (12) from the school disco, the boys all came out fully dressed in jeans and T shirts, and the girls were all dressed like sex workers.

Insist · 14/12/2010 13:28

Confused Shouldn't children be in bed by 7.30pm or at least away from the TV?
Whilst I sympathize with the comments about all the over sexualised stuff on Xfactor - it's no surprise - Rhianna and Christina Aguilera are pop stars famous for being sexy.

Most female pop music is sexy!

Use some discretion and keep your kids away from it until they are in secondary school!

It's not hard, just turn the tv off and do something with them instead!

I know I sound rather old fashioned but it really isn't that difficult to limit the amount of tv consumed in the house! Grin

HuwEdwards · 14/12/2010 13:34

10yo in bed at 7.30? on a Sat night?

Clearly Insist, you haven't a clue.

mosschops30 · 14/12/2010 14:02

Im no prude and we censor very little in this house, have taken the children to mardis gras etc and I have been to lap dancing clubs with friends so am not in the 'feminist' group.

BUT .... I was horrified on Saturday night as we sat down to watch X factor as a family, as we do every week. Even dh was in two minds as to whether to turn it over, but luckily ds1 was paying very little attention.

I didnt think Rhianna was too bad, but the Christina routine was something out of a lap dancing club, and not something I expect to see outsideof that type of establishment!

takethatlady · 14/12/2010 14:36

Grin at The images below have been published to show the fury they've caused'. Yeah right Hmm

garrowismylaw · 14/12/2010 14:45

Anything on TV before 9pm is classed as pre-watershed...therefore suitable for family viewing. Sadly, as is usualy case on these programmes, this was not suitable.
Media seem to be constantly pushing the boundaries with regard to this rule.
As for sending 10 year old to bed at 7.30pm on a sat nite...ridiculous. And, if it wasn't for this rubbish on TV parents wouldn't have to resort to a no TV ban

Family viewing my arse!