People on benefits should be put in the stocks

[MerrilyDefective]

...and have rotten eggs and tomatos thrown at them.
How dare they go on holiday and be allowed to have christmas presents etc
They should live on bread and dripping.

2shoes and herbie - I am glad and I genuninely hope you bloody enjoy it!

I couldn't live on £120 and I'm not disabled and needing to buy extra things. It's shit that it costs disabled people more to live. Wish people would stop bloody moaning about a tenner.

To all those carers out there who stay at home to help support a person with a disability (myself included)I think instead of having a massive 'slag off' session about how either ourselves or our 'charges' are a thorn in the side of humanity I think we should all get a MASSIVE virtual clap of support . Lets just see how much we are all SAVING the government by caring for our loved ones at home...the average wage for a paid carer is £7 an hour. 'We' get paid by the government VERY much less than that, we are on-call 24 hours a day,7 days a week for the duration of the persons life. we suffer health problems from moving and handling and stress. If we stay with our 'charges' in hospital (as most do) we are intitled to neither a bed or food...we have to tell the DWP if 'they' stay in hospital for even a night so that the DWP can extract funds because we are not providing our 'charges' with food/heating at home (even though many times hospital food is unsuitable. I have a mother who i carerd for with Dementia a MIL with Dementai and a DD with cerebral Palsy OOPS sori I'm starting to sound like a 'sob story' but they are the facts! can i also point out that many carers when they are able to return to work work as carers! I'ts a known fact that many home carers are lone parents too. If you care to google a servey by the Joseph Rowntree Trust you'll also see that many home carers live below the poverty line...Oh and please dont forget that us carers and those disabled people who are able to work have/are ALL paying tax too! I just hope the families of those wounded and disabled soldiers i met the other week are not reading this thread because they will know that the sacrifices that they are/have made for this country is begrudging them £10 at xmas . Enough said i need to get to work now at the respite centre where i support disabled adults...maybe some of you MNs who judge would like to give up your spare time and work voluntary like i did with these wonderful people when i was working full time before i had my daughter.
It would be innteresting to see how many disabled peeps you've met or HAD to have serve you in the community? thankfully unlike some MNs the peeps i help support are NOT judgemental.

My Goodness, how very riled and angry people are over one point of view - and how much time do people have on their hands!? I don't know how many times I have to reiterate this but I shall once more - even though people will read what they want to read... 1. People who need benefits should of course receive them - PARTICULARLY the disabled. 2. I don't agree with people who illegally claim benefits (who would?) and 3. I believe that although £10 seems daft to begrudge, times by millions it soon adds up to an astronomical amount that our country can't afford. It seems strange to me that view has got people to the point of wishing disabilities on others!!! Just the kind of kindness and tolerance that Ghandi would have wanted hey?

And can I just add to the person who said about 'walking in other people's shoes'. You really shouldn't say that unless you know someone's situation first - believe me everyone he's their challenges. Never presume anything.

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Cupcake
Shocking I know but actually this thread is not all about you.

'I think Ghandi would roll over in his grave if he thought his words were being used on this thread'.
Er cupcake,wasn't it you who said this??
Page 14.

No pagwatch but you and others have aimed an awful lot of abuse my way which i am proud to say i've not had to resort to. I want to say that I have taken on board the fact that things can be more expensive at Christmas time in terms of travel and heating etc. What will always infuriate me are those who claim illegally and in hindsight that's why I thought to start a thread about 'putting people who claim in stocks' to have a bit of banter was Ill judged. It's a very sensitive topic that shouldn't be joked about really. My anger is aimed at those who play the system of which I hand on heart know many. I honestly don't judge or begrudge people who legitimately claim benefits - that's what they are there for.

Yes and? My point is that someone had quoted Ghandi stressing tolerance and kindness and then someone has actually wished a disability on lifeforrent!!! Unbelievable.

Given that around £16 million pounds of benefit goes unclaimed every year, I think that an extra tenner at Christmas is a small step in the direction of righting that wrong.

I'm wondering where you live to know so many people who play the system? I live in social housing, work in a low paid job and come from a working class background... Most people I know actually struggle to get the benefits which they are entitled to.

I am not running a mental spreadsheet on who uttered which opinion. The thread has rolled on, I have disagreed with you and have probably be rude in the process.
But you seem to think that everyone saying
" people who begrudge disabilitiy benefits are wankers' etc etc are recalling your posts erroneously or posting directly to you.
You are not the only person on one side of the argument. I am not 'talking' to you. I am posting on an open thread to anyone who may be contributing.

And fwiw ' goodness me , how riled you all are and how much time on your hands..' is rude too. Just in a passive aggressive faux bored manner. It also slightly misfires as you are riled and clearly have nothing else to do either.

No NO STUCK you are wrong. You must surely know by now that the majority of benefit claiments are bogus! Dont you read the papers and the threads on MN?

Everyone knows about someone who has two cars and a flat screen tv in every room. Not to mention all those people who just turn up at their GPs and get handed a blue badge.

Why on earth would i reveal to you where I live on mumsnet? And if you are so quick not to believe what i say why on earth would I believe that 'you know' people who struggle to get benefits they are entitled to? Why on earth can't someone sensible please agree that people who illegally claim benefits are in the wrong? Stuckinthemiddle you also make a strange point...why is people not claiming benefits they are entitled to a 'wrong'? Perhaps they are uneeded? Why does that translate to a Christmas bonus? Again I shall say that I completely agree with people who claim benefits because they need them.

Benefits go unclaimed because the people entitled to them are not made aware of them.

Of course people who claim illegally are wrong.
What are you on about.?

The point people are cross about is the wank suggestion that people with disabilities should not get anything and should certainly not get a £10 at Christmas.

Lol at secret squirrel re where you live. I live in Surrey. >

Pagwatch - your posts have been so unecessarily abusive they have been erased. Speaks volumes. I cannot be bothered trawling back through pages of text but you have indeed called me a number of expletives, accused me of not having sympathy toward disabled people etc etc. Have you come across people judging your situation and thinking you claim illegally? Is that the problem and is that why what I'm saying upsetting you so much?

Btw did everyone answer the child benefit question.

Apparently lifeforrent never claimed child benefit

Pagwatch...
Ignore
Ignore
Ignore
My Mum says if you ignore 'them' then they'll go away.

Pagwatch - I love the way you 'gang up' with people you have never met to try and abuse others. It really is a bully boy tactic.

That is true Merrily. They also go unclaimed because the system is complicated and very stressful, particularly for those who already have difficult lives.

Cupcake, of course I wasn't asking for your address. I am however genuinely wondering in what sort of circumstances you live to bring you into contact with so many benefit cheats?

Care to elaborate?

Lol
Cup
Do you think I claim benefits and this is personal ?

I don't as it goes

I think my 1 of posts was deleted because I use cunt when I am irritated. And because people are darned quick to whine to mumsnet

Merrily

My dad used to say never argue with an idiot as a passer by may not be able to tell the difference

Actually no, Cupcake.

What you are witnessing here is not bullying so much as social censure.

I'm done. Enjoy your virtual playground.