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People on benefits should be put in the stocks

495 replies

MerrilyDefective · 03/12/2010 17:47

...and have rotten eggs and tomatos thrown at them.
How dare they go on holiday and be allowed to have christmas presents etc
They should live on bread and dripping.

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StarlightMcKenzie · 04/12/2010 22:03

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poshsinglemum · 04/12/2010 22:03
Xmas Biscuit
poshsinglemum · 04/12/2010 22:08

I bet the people who don't like people claiming benefits also resent paying taxes. Tax the rich (evil laugh) - JOKE

medetre · 04/12/2010 22:11

I think that the amount spent on benefits is too high and that it needs to be reduced but I do think you have emphatic incontinence if you seriously begrudge disabled people getting an extra £10 at christmas

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:12

I don't claim CB thank you very much. It would be ridiculous for me to as I don't need it and I don't believe in such a parented society. The Govt are not there to pay for people who cannot pay for themselves, and those that get handouts ought to be grateful not on their high horse that they "deserve it". It is not a right or an entitlement.

The ones who are getting so defensive and annoyed are those who have a sort spot about claiming I see.

And no, I have no interest in providing work for disabled people-it isn't my line of business, and there wouldn't be any positions for people like that.

cupcakebakerer · 04/12/2010 22:12

Pagwatch! You are wrong. Again. I stated clearly my thoughts on disabled people receiving benefits - they should if they need to. Also if you look closely I wasn't the one who started the post, merely said I didn't agree with the Christmas bonus due to the cost to the tax payer. Life for rent - no need be disrespectful. If you notice it was me who first pointed out the cost to the taxpayer of the £10 when multiplied by the millions in benefits: which you agreed with. Which one of my views is it that you don't agree with precisely? I thought your comment about 'having to be served' by disabled people was pick-your-jaw-off-the-floor Ill judged.

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:13

I do begrudge it. I really do. It sticks in my throat, that people who are fully reliant on people who work, think they deserve further money during a time when our economy is at it's lowest. It's selfish, and even if I lost my job tomorrow, I have far too much pride and self respect to take money that other people are working so damn hard to provide.

cupcakebakerer · 04/12/2010 22:14

'for people like that' life for rent? Bizarre turn of phrase.

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:15

Cupcake it was nothing disrespectful intended. I don't think ANYONE deserves a bonus. You think that certain people could perhaps do with a bit of extra help. That's the difference. But yeah I didn't read your posts, I've been back and forth all day missing some.

But yeah I agree it's costing the tax payer far too much for people to keep their heating on an extra few days. How on earth did people cope before "free money" was being thrown at them?

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:15

as is "bizarre turn of phrase".

maktaitai · 04/12/2010 22:21

LFR and cupcake, if you think the £10 bonus is a waste of money, how about thinking of it as a cut in benefit of £10 a month for the other eleven months of the year?

By your calculation LFR, people on benefits are therefore saving the nation well over £600,000,000! Fantastic!

Cupcakebearer, truly, my husband has schizoaffective disorder - has worked all his life like everyone else but he has patches where it is not feasible for him to work (and he does work at home LFR, since you ask, he's a lawyer) He's been unfit to do so this summer due to increased depression and psychosis. He always has these things despite stonkingly unpleasant medication, but manages them. He also has a bad back as it happens, but manages that as well. So, depression and a bad back eh? That makes him double a 'lazy tosser' in one poster's view up the thread. He's also been assessed by the ESA process as fully fit to work with no problems at all, and is in the huge number who have been refused benefit in the new process. We're appealing, but the point of the process is to chuck as many off benefits as possible. Watch the unemployment figures spiral as lots of people who are unemployable by any normal criterion hit the JSA figures, and much more so because of this process (I've been hampered in my ability to go to work this week by not being able to leave dh alone for long), but hey! we've cut the ESA figures, aren't we shiny!

StarlightMcKenzie · 04/12/2010 22:24

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LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:28

yeah but still...they get out of bed and attempt to make their lives better for themselves.

cupcakebakerer · 04/12/2010 22:30

And pagwatch - i have most definitely not used the word scrounger. Your word NOT mine. And one thing I do agree with lifeforrent on is that claiming seems to be very much a 'sore point' for some posters who are resorting to abuse. You never know when you might need to claim and if you are genuinely in need then there is no reason to be defensive. I don't agree with a benefits Christmas bonus or those who claim disability illegally - how is that not having empathy for the vulnerable? I donate more than that to charity a week, but then again I can afford to, our Government can't.

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:30

I shan't be made to feel like the "baddy" because I had the sense to save up and work hard.

For all of you who are insistent that you all worked before falling ill, saving up may have been the way to go.

If you fail to plan...

c0rns1lk · 04/12/2010 22:33

life for rent - most of the posters who claim DLA on this thread are claiming for their child's disability. It's not about falling ill.

2shoesnightmarebeforechristmas · 04/12/2010 22:33

"And no, I have no interest in providing work for disabled people-it isn't my line of business, and there wouldn't be any positions for people like that."

people like that
ffs
troll alert

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:34

and most, from what they say, are claiming on behalf of their spouse.

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:35

I'm not a troll for goodness' sake. Read up on all the other posts I've commented on. Good Lord, an opinion that doesn't settle with the (non) working class...must make a troll?

huddspur · 04/12/2010 22:35

Isn't DLA paid whether you are working or not so its not about whether people can be "bothered" to work, its more about giving people with disabilities a little extra cash to pay for any extra provisions that a person may need.

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:36

Yes people like that? Terminology. I am not disabled, neither is my husband, so it isn't people like us/this, but them and that.

cupcakebakerer · 04/12/2010 22:36

I'm sticking to the baby name topic in future...a lot more sense spoken there.

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 22:36

Provisions, like free health care? Or paying for bills like most people on minimum wage have to face every month?

GotArt · 04/12/2010 22:39

Star I am by no means privileged! I never got a cent from my parents when I moved out at 18. They didn't even help me move my stuff out. I paid for a taxi while they sat on the couch, barely uttering a goodbye when I walked out the door. I was still in highschool for fuck sakes, working part-time, living with two other girls in a one bedroom flat and trying to finish my grade 13. I never got a student loan because I didn't make enough at the time to qualify for a student loan and my father didn't make enough to co-sign a loan for me at his factory job he had for 35 years. When I turned 15 my mother said, 'Happy birthday, now get a job,' and from then till I moved out when I was 18, I paid her $100 in rent a month so she could go play fucking bingo, money which my father didn't know till many years later I gave her. I worked for 10 years in housekeeping and various retail, minimum wage jobs, put money away when I could and saved. When I was 28, I finally went to university. During school, I worked part-time evenings and when school was out, full-time. I paid monthly towards my school tuition, did 2 BFA's and an Honour's degree in 4 years and graduated in the top 10 of my class. Then moved to London, took another year off, saved, and got a master's degree. All without one fucking cent from parents or student loans or anything other than me working. I have what I have because I worked for it and took responsibility for my life. It can be done. I know, because I did it, without the help of anyone. No one. Why should we as tax payers be paying for people that clearly do not need benefits?

I have no qualms about paying taxes. I have problems with people who abuse the system, which is what my sister is doing and she is lying to me and panning me for money all the time for things other than what she is asking for.