DSD abortion thread part II

[GivesHeadlessHorseman]

carry on ladies....

Male students are told that if they are sexually active, planning on being or even think they're going to get lucky then they should carry a condom. But afair, this is done in yr 10 and 6th form, KS3 sex ed (14 the cross-over from ks3/4) is more about puberty, methods or contraception, respect for one's body.

"but their punishment is not equal, their choices are not equal, their rights are not equal."

They are as equal as they can possibly be given the unchangeable facts of biology.

Glad you are feeling a little better, Tess.

I will reiterate what I said earlier - your dsd is VERY lucky to have a SM like you.

I hope after the time alone with his DD that your DH has pulled his head out of the sand.

And I'm glad that there is potentially another family to share the burden of this.

((HUGS))

yes, that is a really great post louie, very thought-provoking and heartfelt.

Tess glad to hear from you hope you are feeling better. Where will the thread be moved to?

Louie74 Good post. It must have been incredibly difficult for your mother to be so strong under such difficult circumstances.

Insightful post Louie

MN can move this I think if OP requests?

whatever happens later he has NO choice

bloody good thing too.

Louie - that was an amazing post you wrote.

GivesHeadless - you can request that this thread is moved into OTBT, as it's yours - I think others can too but as the OP your request is more weighty. Report your own op and ask for it to be moved.

Hi, no worries about this particular thread being moved - as someone said I hope it has been of some use to parents of teens (and parents of any age really as they will eventually be teens!) Obviously didn't start out thinking this would be a poster campaign for underage sex but I'm glad that it has taken on the debate it has because I think it's very important.

Off the Beaten Track is in 'Other Stuff' and isn't viewable to randoms who aren't logged in, isn't seen on Search/Active Convos, etc. so fine to carry on there.

X-post with 3Thumb. Gives - I don't mind if you move it to OTBT

lou that post just sums up everything so many on here have been trying to say. Being cruel to be kind is a rubbishy old cliche, but in this case it's apt I think.

If Tess can bear it I think she should show that to her DSD.

I don't mind doing it but I can't seem to ever link it back to the original thread! Can someone less useless volunteer please?!

Oh I see, what you mean - the whole thread moves. OK - gotcha. Doing it now.

Actually, if Tess doesn't mind this staying here, it might be good to leave it - I think it is a very valuable thread for future reference.

See what MNHQ do with it though.

Yes Louie but that's about you.This is a difeerent girls, different set of circumstances.I am getting the impression that this girl feels very rejected (by her bio mum) and wants somebody to love and be loved by unconditionally
Not QUITE sure what the OP is doing that is so wonderful and supportive.She seems s trying to talk her DSD into an abortion against her will.A loviong supportive family would be there for and rally round this child whatever she decides.All this talk of mother and baby units!
Being a parent often does involve sacrifices and doing things we'd rather not, for the sake of our children.Welcome to being a parent!
I would have thougt she would qualify for childcare for the baby whilst sheis still in education.She will obviously need a lot of support, but with that support will be able to face her responsibilities rather than getting rid of them.

I also don't mind leaving it here in AIBU - just to let it die down as it will naturally over 1k posts anyway as nothing new can be added. I would like the new thread to be in OTBT though as don't want any further identifying details able to be thrown up in a google search for instance.

But it's up to you GHH

wotno

you seem to be suggesting that no experience here is valid unless it supports the conclusion that abortion is wrong.

pro-lifers are a bloody scourge.

at wotnochocs. Haven't read it all through then, have you.

Wotnochocs... have you even bothered to read the OP by Tess on the 1st thread?

I think the point is that moving both the threads to otbt would mean that they could not be googled in a websearch etc which is probably a good idea as there are some identifying factors in some of Tess's posts.

Would also mean that those not logged in would not be able to read them. Sounds like a good idea to protect Tess, there are enough people now able to offer support.

Actually the pro lifers have never said that DSD should not be given realistic facts of how hard being a mother will be and discussing termination, just that she should not be emotionally black mailed or coerced into termination. But you can still sit down and tell her unbiased facts.

And Tess herself has said, given the advanced state of the pg, that she feels that termination is no longer on the table as an option and won't be pushing DSD to consider it.

Although wotnochocs Tess seems to have no intention of pushing the abortion route.

Re moving this thread - it will still be googlable as it will have been cached. Only threads started in OTBT are non-googlable.