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to think large ladies proclaiming themselves 'real women' is offensive to us slim types?

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madmn52 · 30/08/2010 21:48

I am so sick of hearing some (stand back from the flame throwers!) big ladies being so defensive about their weight that they even try and claim a monopoly on womanliness. I like being slim and much prefer to be - although I have never really been overweight. I am sick of hearing women saying - 'men prefer a real woman' - or ' men prefer curves' - or 'something to grab hold of' etc.etc. As a slim woman - if I were to walk in the office and announce that men prefer a woman like me to a larger woman - because for example, 'they dont like all that excess flesh ' - then all hell would break loose !! Or if I was to dare say that women over a size 14 were not 'real women' - there would be outrage.
So large ladies - if you are happy and satisfied with how you look - fine - no-ones asking you to put yourself down - but please could you stop putting others down in the process !

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Lizzylou · 02/09/2010 11:43

Oh and I agree with you Emmyloulou.

Comments on any size/shape of woman are wrong.

kittywise · 02/09/2010 11:52

I thinking ganging up is cowardice pure and simple. It's a the easy way out, security in numbers. I wish it never happened anywhere in life, on here, on the street anywhere, but it does. It's not right. It won't stop either. Moaning about it here won't stop it.
All personal attacks are shit. They show a complete lack of ability to argue sensibly. I had a really nasty one thrown at me last week. It was deleted, so should all personal attacks be deleted.

starsareshining · 02/09/2010 11:56

It is definitely wrong. Not exactly something I'd cry over, but something I roll my eyes at.

I'm pretty shocked by the childish behaviour some people disply on this forum. I don't understand it. Why do people think that having the last word is so important? It's quite embarrassing.

londonlottie · 02/09/2010 12:02

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Ariesgirl · 02/09/2010 12:05

Oh God how tedious.

Anyway.

"you conform to the current stereotype, you are conventionally attractive." Who was it who said this? So just to clarify, if someone is skinny and bony and their collar bones jut and you can play the xylophone on their ribs (yes, even if they eat normally) and if they also have a huge nose, squint, spots, and buck teeth, are you saying that society views them as more attractive than a pretty, fat girl? It's not quite true is it?

That's it really.

londonlottie · 02/09/2010 12:12

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Ariesgirl · 02/09/2010 12:17

Well that would have been my next point actually Lottie.

"And has a pair of testicles for a head".

"Look at her! She's thin so she's gorgeous!"

moomaker · 02/09/2010 12:18

Before I post I would like to offer an explanation as to why my posting are different on these threads...

AIBU- forum for discussion of an opinion which the original poster already acknowledges is considered unreasonable by some (else why bother asking).

BESH Towers - forum for those finding conception difficult in a YANA, supportive and understanding way.

But as this is AIBU my comment is thus.....

as far as I am concerned the phrase/term REAL WOMEN, is used to differentiate normal female adults from

  1. Airbrushed media images
  2. Pre-pubescent older teenagers with child like bodies.
  3. Women who's physical appearance is the result of a medical Illness
  4. Women who's physical appearance is the result of cosmentic enhancement.
emmyloulou · 02/09/2010 12:31

Moo..............

as far as I am concerned the phrase/term REAL WOMEN, is used to differentiate normal female adults from

  1. Pre-pubescent older teenagers with child like bodies.
  2. Women who's physical appearance is the result of a medical Illness
  3. Women who's physical appearance is the result of cosmentic enhancement

Wow so none of the above are real women then no? 2 is that not the way nature made them?
3 so a woman who loses a leg to diabetes or a woman who loses a breast or uterus due to cancer is not real then?
4 maybe a woman who has lost a breast to cancer may have an enchancment is she not real then?

Are people going out of their way on this thread to post the most ignorant/offensive thing they can?

Rockbird · 02/09/2010 12:35

if they also have a huge nose, squint, spots, and buck teeth, are you saying that society views them as more attractive than a pretty, fat girl? It's not quite true is it?

It absolutely is true. In the society we live in being slim is everything, looks are secondary. It's all bollocks, but that's the way it is at the moment.

kittywise · 02/09/2010 12:49

Well if someone's go plastic norks then they're not real are they?Hmm.
She's all woman apart from her fake titsGrin, not all real then.

kittywise · 02/09/2010 12:57

By the way I am referring specifically to enhancement done for pure vanity, just because someone wants bigger tits, like the delightful Jordan. I am not in any way referring to woman who have had implants post mastectomy for example.

moomaker · 02/09/2010 12:59

emmyloulou

Thank you for clarifying my personal opinion.

No I do not think that a prepubesent body is representative of a real woman, irrelative of age.

If you have to be ill to look as you do then it is not a true reflection of what you really look like.

And again if you have had cosmetic changes this is not how you really look.

I am not suggesting on an individual basis that any person is not real, but that there is a difference between the real/naturally thin, and the other circumstances listed earlier.

Ariesgirl · 02/09/2010 15:06

"...if they also have a huge nose, squint, spots, and buck teeth, are you saying that society views them as more attractive than a pretty, fat girl? It's not quite true is it?

It absolutely is true. In the society we live in being slim is everything, looks are secondary. It's all bollocks, but that's the way it is at the moment."

Rockbird, I think we'd have to disagree on this one. It is absolutely not true. There was one thing I forgot to add to the above: if the woman in question with all the above features was also sulky-looking and unapproachable looking, as opposed to a fat, pretty woman with a lovely, friendly smile, then I'm pretty certain I know which one "society" would consider to be more attractive. I was taking issue with the poster on the previous page who appeared to think that naturally very skinny women would never have body issues. I know it's trite but I have always been enraged that personality is secondary to looks and a "good" (i.e. slim but with large breasts and a curvy waist) figure. It's very, very sad.

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