To be angry that 30 year old fatties are moaning!?!

[sugarray]

My little boy has recently been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. I was totally heartbroken when we found out! Since then when people have offered him sweets/at partys/in shops, when I have to tell people he can't have things and why, This is usually followed by chubbie thirty to fifty year olds moaning to me that they or a relative have type 2 diabetes and how hard it is for them!

Type 2 is self inflicted.... btw..
I am soo angry that this has happened to my son.... He is only 4 (through no fault of his own Or anyone else) I just want to shout at them to shut up,stop eating so much shit and move around a bit more!!

This may not make sense, but AIBU?

Yes yes I have already said that there are people who medical conditions. What I am getting at here is the fat people who eat too much food and then bleat on about having no idea why they are so fat.
Stop defending them, it's horrible.
look at dawn french, she's not lovely she hideously obese, quite offensive to look at someone so very very unhealthy, what a shame.

indeed pagwatch, but they still over eat and should take responsibility for the choices they make and the food they put in their mouths and then do something about it.

Wow. You're really quite vile, aren't you Kitty?

Nope, not vile, just not tolerant of people who take no repsonsibility for their own actions.
We will look back at this as a crazy time.

My dad has Type 2 diabetes and he is a fatty; it was almost certainly caused by his lifestyle choices.

However, he is one of the kindest people you could meet and a brilliant dad. He would do anything for anyone.

All of his life he has struggled with his weight, and is mortified whenever it effects his life negatively (such as when shopping for clothes). Despite this, he lacks the willpower to do anything serious about it.

He doesn't smoke, drink or have any other vices. It makes me sad to think that some people are looking at him, judging him and thinking 'just eat less fatty'.

There's a lot more to my dad than his weight kittywise, and there is a lot more to those overweight individuals you are sneering at.

Not sure what my point is really...

Dawn French is on tv becuase she is talented, entertaining and funny, what are getting at now kittywise? Fat people shouldnt be on tv, they should be hidden away and made to feel ashamed and disgusting becuase people like you dont like looking at them. FFS

I think that's exactly what she's getting at! She finds it offensive to look at Dawn French because of Dawn French's weight, and somehow believes that this is not her own issue to deal with.

What. The. Fuck.

Sugarray - I am so sorry to hear about your son, it must be a really difficult time for you all. I'm sure that right now you are just angry and lashing out at how unfair this all is.

Life is unfair and you have been dealt a bad card. I hope that this anger phase passes soon and you all learn to live a full life with your son's condition.

It is not as bleak as perhaps it seems to be now, I know at least 2 people who have been insulin dependent since childhood and they are both happy successful adults. Good luck.

Like a said. It is a view.
That while someone is at home maybe depressed, maybe a carer, maybe coping with depression of poor self esteem, maybe having never cooked a meal in their lives, maybe poor, maybe feeling worthless... the thing they should do is man up and stop eating.

You can continue to repeat it. It won't make it any more reasonable or show you in any better light.

If we wantto deal with obeisity we should get PE back in the schools with some vigour, get cookery taught to kids ( having lost many basic skills in a generation), stop terrifying parents into keeping children in the house and stop treating children as if they are either criminals or paedophile fodder, stop companies adding cheap shit to food and various other things.

And actually that still won't make everyone slim because life is not that simple.

I agree Pagwach, people need educating right from the start of schhol about budgeting for food, shopping for food, cooking and excersise.
We also need to have cokkery classes availiable to adults that are very cheap, heck i would teach one for free if someone gave me the room and the ingredients!

We need people encouraging those overweight to slowly make changes, we need people to start being loved for who they are not how much they wiegh.

Anyway i am going to leave this thread now as there are some extremley vile individuals on it.

Dawn French is talented and funny. She is also morbidly obese. It is not healthy, not right and not attractive to look at.
What on earth makes you think I am trying to paint myself in any light here. I don't care about that.

I don't think that sort of people should be allowed out actually. It just makes life unpleasant for the rest of us having to look at them. You can see just by looking at them that they have no self control. Yup - overly judgemental smug people should be made to eat their words before they share air space with the rest of us tolerant folks.

Honestly Kittywise - your opinions are absolutely horrible. Does my weight (for I am indeed overweight) really concern you that much. Is it in fact any of your business at all? Do you know how healthy I am? Do you have insight in to every aspect of my personal being just from looking at me? No?

Then try keeping your bile to yourself.

OP - you are way out of line but you're stressed so ok. Listen to the wise women who have offered you advice here and focus on your son instead of taking out your anger on entirely innocent folks.

Oh and fwiw - I can cook and do cook from scratch and I exercise every day. My diet is better and I am more active than my ideal weight colleague. Funny that - no idea how I'm getting away with that one. Will try to chain myself to the ready meal and settee.

Look Kitty, you're just being smug.

Here's the thing. I'm pretty skinny. Yesterday I had breakfast, then a croissant, hula hoops, lunch which was a meatball sub, fruit pastilles and a large dinner which was followed by a slice of cake. My blood pressure is low, my cholesterol is low and I've only ever had one filling.

I wouldn't say I eat that much every day but I do indulge and... I get away with it. If I didn't, you'd be there wagging your finger and calling me disgusting. How is that fair? It isn't. Yes, those who are overweight almost certainly overeat but it's all about shades of grey. Some people have to be very disciplined to stay a healthy weight, others (like me) get away with murder.

"What on earth makes you think I am trying to paint myself in any light here. I don't care about that."

no reason.
Just usually when people post their views they don't want the world to think that it makes them sound revoltingly intolerant and judgemental.

but if you don't mind...

I am currently losing weight due to my father's recent heart attacks giving me a kick up the gluteus maximus. It is not simple at all, or rather, the actions are simple, but changing years of ingrained habit and thought processes is extremely difficult. 5 weeks in, I have lost 1 stone, which I am happy with as I am making a lifestyle change, not doing a quick fix.

Every relative on my father's side is obese, all of them are diabetic (type 2, sinful fatties), a couple have fatty liver disease. I'm not having it happen to me - but by all that is holy, this is hard.

I tried Slimming World, and I firmly believe that slimming clubs and the diet industry are contributing to the o easily epidemic.

I don't think the OP is a wind-up, TSH.

I recognise the OP's anger and frustration, although I think it's unreasonable, it's understandable as she is trying to come to terms with the fact her DS has a health problem and can't eat this that and the other.

All the other opinions on weight issues being bandied about are by-the-by IMO.

Kitty you realise you sound like a total idiot, don't you? Oh and actually, Dawn French was interviewed for Gok Wan's documentary Too Fat Too Young, and said she was a size ten for her wedding and she hated it, so put the weight back on. So seeing as she's happy with you, maybe you shouldn't be offended? I can't believe how stupid, dismissive and rude you are actually being.

OP - YABU. Its not a competition about who is more ill, or who got ill more righteously. Get off your high horse. Its fine to be upset about your son, but not okay to be judging and criticising everyone else who is suffering.

I don't care no. There is far too much pussy footing going on regarding over eating.

Actually, I know 2 extremely thin people who developed type 2 diabetes as adults. It is not always self inflicted. And yes it is hard for them, one only found out he was diabetic when he was rushed to hospital as he had slipped into a coma.

Sugarray - so sorry that your ds has this diagnosis. And yanbu to be angry, it's part of the natural process when a child is diagnosed with any sort of long-term condition. Do you have any sort of support from the specialists that you can access? I know your ds shouldn't have lots of sweets / cakes etc (but neither should any other child eat lots of rubbish), but there may be some way that you can be taught to alter his insulin depending on what he eats - maybe not ideal on a daily basis, but if he's going to e.g a birthday party where he's likely to feel left out if he doesn't get cake for example. A lot of people who have type 1 diabetes are taught how to alter their insulin dose depending on what they eat and their resulting blood glucose levels (to be fair, i'm an adult nurse, so am not clear how possible this is with children, but it may be something you can investigate) - use your anger and turn it to a passion to find out how you can make sure your son's life is as normal as it can be

Also, as for type 2 diabetes, it is not always self-inflicted and if it is, it's not always "fatties" who have it, and the health risks are the same for both types of diabetes (so your attitude to people with type 2 diabetes is very very unreasonable).

OP I think YABU but I also think in time you will realise that. It is probably a bit too raw for you at the moment to be able to have more of a perspective on it.

WRT how difficult it is to tell you DS he cannot have certain things, he will get used to it quicker than you think and it will not bother him that much.

There's a big genetic element to type 2.

5 year old nephew has type 1 diabetes. He has sweets (more than my kids tbh!). In the main he has them at mealtimes so his parents can count the carbohydrates and give insulin accordingly. I suspect when your son is stabilised he will be able to have sweets etc.

Altinkum - has anyone mentioned monogenetic diabetes to you? I don't know much about it but a diabetes researcher told me once that she thought more 'unusual' cases in young children should be tested than currently are.