MN is quite happy to let innacurate thread titles be posted that could promote discrimination against disabled children and their famillies

[wasuup3000]

Title say's it all.

Oh FFS I just read a bit of the thread and I wish I hadn't. I am really really angry now

Deliberately provocative is about right.

I have been away eating.

I love the phrase cock monkey.

I think the main differnces between beenefit-scrounger type threads and Odd Children threads are twofold.

1. There is an apparent strong sn voice which encourages other people to become a little complacent and think, 'those sn tuff nuts will deal with it' (even though in reality the sn vocalists might be feeling neithr strong nor tuff)
2. As Glitter said, this issue affects posters' children and there are no other ism-type threads which beat up posters' children on a regular basis.

Yes Glitterknickaz, over and over again , if that is what it takes. If by challenging these views you manage to change the views of even one person then that can only be a good thing.
TBH, my dsis did not believe or accept that ADHD existed and believed that it was an excuse for poor parenting, that was until she had my dniece who is Sn.
I myself have changed my views on certain issues after participating in discussions on mumsnet and i believe that i am a better person for it.

It's the summer holidays.

the parents of children with disabilities - mental, physical, behavioral or emotional - are too busy and too exhausted to defend ourselves properly.

This is why these threads seem to rage on.

Point 2 is meant to mean that because it affects posters' children, they are not able to just let antagonistic posts go by, they naturally have a much lower threshold to stupidiity and prejudice on this subject and so they find themselves as a small group of voices on some pretty terrible threads.

Yanbu

The OP of the ADHD thread must be grinning from ear to ear at all the whining shes caused.

DONT FEED THE TROLL

And when the parent ceases to function mentally because of mounting challenges YET AGAIN along with all the other shite of having a child with additional needs?

WHY can't people challenge these views when their kids don't have SN?

CCP "whining"

I'm slightly afraid of asking this but it really is a genuine question.

Why do you (posters with sn dc) feel compelled to get involved in threads that will bring you distress and make you so angry?

I take my hat off to you, really I do [genuine] that despite all the hardships you are living with in rl you still choose to argue it out with these cock monkeys.

mn isn't compulsory though, you're not getting paid to post, so why put yourselves through the ringer so often? I can completely understand why these threads make you so angry but why not hide them more, or biscuit and hide or hide AIBU for a bit?

My kids don't have SN and I challenged the poster on the ADHD thread (haven't seen any of the others). I don't see how the fact that the title is phrased as a question makes it any better. I doubt a thread entitled "AIBU to think that all black people are criminals?" would stick around for long. The thread should be pulled.

Slubber... if there was a post specifically pertaining to an issue that affected your family would you hide it or open it?

Bumder, yes thank you. Any challenges, like any report, are most welcome.

but Riven there's no escape from someone on the internet is wrong

because i want the voice of dissent to be seen on search engines.

I don't want "ADHD Mums", googled, to pull up

Mumsnet

"AIBU to think ADHD is Not True and that the mums Are Lazy??"

"LOL LOL YANBU and they get dla just cos they raised brats innit"

"YANBU My cousins' neighbour says her kid has ADHD but I saw him eating a biscuit so it's all just a bad diet, not ADHD, just too lazy to feed them properly"

"Nah nah it's the teachers, teachers can't cope with the kids so they drug them. About 10 out of 30 kids in city primary schools are drugged, my friend's a paediatricians assistant in california"

"The kids use it as an excuse when they get older so they get more help with their exams"

No

I do not want threads to run like that but if the people who aren't already wrung out don't put themselves through the wringer again and again to speak up, that is how those threads will go.

Fraid so hobnob.

This whole thread in fact is one long whine by some posters to try and get MN to remove a thread that other posters have found quite interesting.

When I see something I dont like on a forum I move on to the next thread. Thats how it works.

And no - the ADHD thread isnt as bad as some are making out. Ignore the obvious trolling, and there are some insightful contributions.

CCP I disagree I haven't heard any whining just people genuinely at the end of their tether with the shit attitudes some people have. and the ADHD thread was one big long wind up by some weirdo wanker

Glitter I would hide it, and regularly do. I NEVER post about the issue that seriously affects my family. The effect of getting involved for me (and ultimately my family) is too big a cost compared with the benefit of dressing down/educating some utter moron.

I hide and move on. It's not what I use mn for.

so take it up with mnhq.wee email should suffice

Slubber, that may not be what you use mn for. but a lot of parents with SN children arrive here, and stay here, because there is nowhere else they can get support.

you really wouldn't believe the sheer amount of things you are not told about, form rights to education and services, to little things that make your life easier (how to get a radar key for disabled toilets, for instance)

we really don't have any choice but to post stuff that is close to home and personal - there is nowhere else we can ask.

and I agree with colditz. I challenge, when I can, because I do not want the ignorant attitudes to stand unchallenged. I do not want the ridiculous posts about how DLA is an extravagent benefit, how motability cars are free, how SN children should not be allowed in MS schools, and so on, to be the view that is seen as accepted.

scottishmummy - we have. again and again.

it would appear that if A.N Other poster gets offended at A.N. Other post, then the thread gets pulled.

If people get offended by a SN post, then the thread (usually) is left to stand, as an education.

yes i can see why it upsets,doesnt a critical mass of complaints galvanise mnhq.do people really post provocative posts to take the piss

I don't know what the criteria is for deletion. I don't think it can be critical mass, because the ADHD one has had a lot of complaints/reports.

The answer usually comes back as "not doing anything illegal, and besides, there's an interesting discussion going on"

which completely sidesteps the hurt/offended angle that spurred the complaint (and I have been on threads that have been pulled due to hurt/upset, not just legality, but that doesn't apply to anti-SN threads)

Civitas suggests that incitement over the internet can also be a hate crime, which is why some forums with free posting do take down disablist posts when complained about.