MN is quite happy to let innacurate thread titles be posted that could promote discrimination against disabled children and their famillies

[wasuup3000]

Title say's it all.

I am not so fussed about MN to be honest.

But it makes me honest to God sad when someone posts nasty shit about SN and people who are already living in stressful situations are forced to defend themselves and the rest of the board goes...

I don't see that when it is things like benefit bashing or racism - lots of smart people get indignant and involved. Sn does not seem to generate the same supportive reaction.

It increases my sense of isolation and I am rarely bothered so it must be really hard for those feeling fragile

Is the OP linke to netmums?

gahh 'linked'

Why IS it valid to 'debate' (read attack) those because of disabilities which are completely not their fault but NOT valid to do so based on race, religion or sexual orientation?

SN or any bashing btw is not acceptable, but some discussion on it is not to be banned. may people be educated and proved wrong by them.

Why is an OP questioning about SN suddenly a netmums link?

Pag, I'm genuinely sorry to hear you say that.

I stand by my "freedom of speech" stance but I guess I assume (perhaps naively) that right minded people are as ready to jump in and defend attacks on SN as much as racism etc.

I do wonder now, however, if it's easier to jump in on a racism thread as it's more (and I'm sorry, this isn't meant to be a terible pun) black and white than SN where there are a whole spectrum of disorders and therefore what one SN parent might experience is very different from another and so as an "outsider" it's harder to comment and therefore I might stay silent?

I'm sorry, I've probably said that really badly and the baby has just woken up so can't proofread but does that make sense?

netmums?
never heard of you mamaloco, are you a troll?

Like Jabbathehun, I chose not to read the ADD/ADHD thread on the basis that I was sure it would get heated.

I did contribute to the "Swimming" thread - and stand by what I wrote re NT children. However, the thread was also a good example of raising an issue that many of us would never have considered: ie the facilities available for disabled people to change - no just for children, but older disable people as well.

Mumsnet has been good for me in opening my eyes to aspects of life I would never have considered.

Just the form of the title and the name of the OP made me think about this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1027583-MN-is-rubbish?pg=3
where some OP are trying to get into a netmums and mumsnet war. The disability thread has been mentionned as one of their 'tools' for a better word.
I haven't read the ADH thread but I suppose some clever MNer like riven has put them right.

never heard of you either terriotorial does it matter

havent read all the adhd thread,but i have been on both sides of these arguments because thats what they always turn into

Anyway ive found that there seems a fair bit of support from others regarding threads on special needs,and even when i havent agreed ive tried not to get personal while some posters have but hold my hands up and admit ive learnt and maybe seen things a bit different from before

what annoys me on alot of the threads not sn persay is that if you dont agree with the majority u get lynched and some pretty poor manners come to the surface

end of the day i think UABU as i think there should be the freedom to disagree and basically dont read or post if it upsets you to much

if somebody thinks differently that dosent make them bad,ignorant etc,remove all posts people dont like and you have no mumsnet and a bigger nanny state

Pag and others

"But it makes me honest to God sad when someone posts nasty shit about SN and people who are already living in stressful situations are forced to defend themselves and the rest of the board goes..."

You are right - ladies without DC with SN - why are we allowing this to happen? .

I think that with the new equality act 2010 coming in we should have a think about ensuring that all forms of discrimination are dealt with equally on MN.

Could someone link to the board policy on such matters. Perhaps we should see immediately link to such a policy when we see discriminatory language being used.

Perhaps we need a bit of a re-write of the policy and maybe there could be some real life testamonials to explain to people just how hurtful their comments are.

Then MNHQ could email a poster with that content and then the offender would be forced to read it and may change their views.

I guess there are 2 sorts of people who are causing upset:

1. those who are trying to be offensive and

2. those who genuniely don't realise how and why they are being offensive

Cat 1 - need banning

Cat 2 - need educating.

yanbu
I am getting a bit tired of this shit allowed.
as for a post I just read on the other thread, if someone refereed to my dd in that way in rl I would slap them

mumsnet is loosing its appeal when people tell you what you can write on a forum

often people post without knowledge or experience beyond the latest tabloid headlines.
I don't really agree with more moderation but i would urge EVERYONE before they post, just stop & think, it is someobodies child, none of us thought we would be posting mainly on the SN board & it could just as easily be YOUR child so please, unless you REALLY KNOW, don't just jump on the bandwagon as appears is often the case.

I think racist, homophobic, sexist, anti religious comments are apparent as much as disablist comments throughout MN.

The enlightened will continue to challenge unacceptable comment whoever they are directed at.

Most posters show their ignorance by posting such twaddle and most see them for what they are.

yanbu, over the years some horrendous stuff has been allowed to stand.

oh riven I would say but as she was talking about you I won't I reported it as it made me bloody angry.
they are jealous of our beautiful(but noisy) girls

"You are right - ladies without DC with SN - why are we allowing this to happen?"

People without SN kids tend not to know about SN and perhaps don't post because of a lack of knowledge on the subject, rightly or wrongly. People tend to become knowledgeable about SN by either working in the field or having a child who has SN- leaving a whole swathe of people in the dark. Progress on educating people has been made; a generation ago, if you mentioned autism people would have looked at you blankly- now at least the condition is familiar; but has so far to go.

I love that Mumsnet is so open. If you are so hypersensitive that you do not appreciate differing opinions to your own, perhaps avoid such an open forum. I have found mumsnet to be a great source of balanced opinions. I don't always agree, I often find other people's viewpoints ridiculous, but always fascinating. As for the ADHD thread, I always think of my own childhood when children were just naughty, couldn't concentrate etc, without the need for labelling/chemical intervention.

most of the trolls people who start the threads in question have no idea about kids with sn, they are mainly bigots

Hammy02 so maybe mn should ditch the sn topic.