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MN is quite happy to let innacurate thread titles be posted that could promote discrimination against disabled children and their famillies

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wasuup3000 · 24/08/2010 16:10

Title say's it all.

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Breton1900 · 24/08/2010 20:32

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LeninGrad · 24/08/2010 20:35

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pagwatch · 24/08/2010 20:36

breton
If at any stage you had attempted to engage with any sensitivity or empathy , the thread would have read much like this one - a sensible, considered discussion

That was not what you wanted, nor what you achieved.

I was happy to call you a nasty twat because you were snide, superior and clearly trying to goad people.

You achieved, I believe, exactly the reaction you sought.

LeninGrad · 24/08/2010 20:39

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pagwatch · 24/08/2010 20:40

"... einforces my opinion that many children exhibiting behavioural problems have learned it all from Mummy."

Exactly the tone of your whole thread....

Fortunately I do not have a child with ADHD or ADD so when I call you a cock monkey I am not adversely affecting my child

2shoes · 24/08/2010 20:41

ok lets see if the report stuff works,
everyone report that vile post

ccpccp · 24/08/2010 20:44

Are you feeding the trolls again?

Some people never learn.

ccpccp · 24/08/2010 20:47

You sure about that Leningrad?

This is AIBU. Its a place for ranting and getting things off your chest. Self help group or support place for people with SN kids it certainly aint.

Heracles · 24/08/2010 20:48

There's already a thread discussing this. Starting another smacks of trying to generate a consensus.

Obviously I disagree; YABU. Mumsnet "allows" all kinds of threads, it's for the posters to react as they see fit.

In my opinion Breton certainly appears to be guilty of gross insensitivity, but then there's nothing to stop people pointing that out. There are a large number of sites that would have banned a number of posters for calling her/him the things they did in that ADD thread: worth considering that for a moment, I feel...

LeninGrad · 24/08/2010 20:52

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Glitterknickaz · 24/08/2010 21:23

Definitely going to investigate that Civitas information, thank you.
Parenting internet forum supposedly for support for parents condoning hate crime via disablism. Might be interesting.

norwegianblew · 24/08/2010 21:25

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Glitterknickaz · 24/08/2010 21:27

and again why isn't IP banning in place for instances such as the previous poster?

wasuup3000 · 24/08/2010 21:28

Nice.... you find lack of empathy and disabilism aka hate crime entertaining...

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norwegianblew · 24/08/2010 21:31

wasuup3000 - do you mean the lack of empathy, abuise and hatred directed at Breton?

wasuup3000 · 24/08/2010 21:33

I think it could be possible to have some kind of moderator member approval in place for certain forums?

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wasuup3000 · 24/08/2010 21:34

No N I don't....yawn

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pagwatch · 24/08/2010 21:36

what empathy was he seeking?

If I say that I think you child is obnoxious and you are a shit mother would you wish to engage politely with me?

I suspect you would loathe and abuse me and I suspect that would be fair comment

I have engaged in perfectly reasonable terms with people concerned about over medication of syndromes, over use of the term, people with bad behaviour blaming ADHD when it is not relevent.

But that is not what he was doing

Glitterknickaz · 24/08/2010 21:38

I think you misread the situation, NB.
I do have empathy, for both you and for Breton.
To have your heads so firmly entrenched in your rectums must be a tad sore.
No wonder you're so tetchy.

I did like the quote "you're one accident away from disability". It could happen to anyone, even NB or Breton.

Wonder what their 'opinions' would be then?

Mumi · 24/08/2010 21:42

norwegianblew Tue 24-Aug-10 21:25:37

"I have had to sign up again twice"

Then if I were you I'd start thinking of a third namechange.

tallwivglasses · 24/08/2010 21:43

Well, if these types of thread continue to stand, I for one am going to start actively supporting the sn mums. I'm one myself - but often feel their replies are far more informed, witty and profound than anything I could come up with.

But while lurking in the shadows I've had moments of laughing out loud/punching the air - when I see bigotted OP's backed into a corner by a bunch of eloquent (if exhausted) sn mums.

The least I can do is post, "What X said."

Breton1900 · 24/08/2010 21:46

If my OP on the ADHD thread caused initial offence then that was unfortunate.

However, I hold to everything I later wrote, all of which was perfectly lucid and rational, irrespective of whether individuals agreed with my opinions or not.

I repeat that while many children today exhibit severe behavioural problems I don't consider that ADHD is a valid disorder. Some of the reasons cited by clinicians e.g. genetic or biochemical imbalances, are highly dubious, and the medical evidence to support such claims has yet to be adequately demonstrated.

There are psychological, cultural and environmental factors that should be considered first. Rushing to diagnose a child with ADHD, is, to my mind, too easy.

As a contributor on that thread remarked, in today's society it is much easier (and cheaper) to administer pills than seek more expensive and time consuming solutions.

Although many who responded to my thread informed me that their child was not receiving medication, it nonetheless remains a fact that large numbers of children and young people are being administered with these powerful psychotropic drugs, the long-term effects of which are, as yet, unknown.

norwegianblew - enjoy! Wink

BeerTricksPotter · 24/08/2010 21:47

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pointydog · 24/08/2010 21:48

So I take it this sort of goading was going on on teh adhd thread.

I just wouldn't continue a conversation along these lines. I wouldn't. In the same way that I have participated very little in some of those rancid bnp threads.

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