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To think the school are being arses?

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TheLadyEvenstar · 19/07/2010 09:08

For the last 6 weeks DS1 has had a mohican (sp) yesterday my bil thinned the sides out as ds1's hair is very thick and curly.

Now I have not seen his hair today as he stayed with my mum last night, but at 8.30 the school phoned to say he was on his way home for having an inappropriate hair cut which they feel will affect his learning ????????

How the hell can a haircut affect learning ffs

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 10:59

He spends Friday, Saturday at mums and some weeks he will spend either Tuesday or wednesday with her as this is when he does go-karting (mums b'day gift to him).

The weekends he spends with her are their time together - it has always been the same since he was a lot younger. He enjoys spending time with nanny just as i did as a child until I was 16 I would stay with my grandparents most weekends - through choice.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 11:41

Ok am going to try and get this into one post without missing anything.

Stay My exact words to the head of house were "I have relayed the schools message to ds and explained to him he cannot return to school with this haircut. He is in his room atm (which I thought he was as when the phone rang he legged it out the living room where the front door is) I am just about to take him to get it cut off"
Cue him screaming behind me "I am not getting it cut you can't make me i hate you you are mistreating me" etc etc
I sighed and said "Sorry" to the head of house "Is there any chance that some work can be sent home for him as this is going to be lengthy"

She then replied "This is not worth any of us stressing over send him into school tomorrow and he can sit in the unit, it will give us a chance to do some 1-2-1 work with him"

She then spoke to DS and told him the same that he would be in the unit - end of conversation.

RE: getting his hair cut - when he came in from school I said hello to him and asked what had happened - i like to hear his version as well rightly or wrongly- he said he had only just gone through the gate when the head of attendance pulled him up about his hair took him to the office and called me. I then said to him "well what are we going to do now? you can't go to school with your hair like that and you've got sports day on wednesday, you don't want to miss it do you? you've been looking forward to the events you are in"

He didn't reply straight away and then a few minutes later without any provacation started screaming that he hated me and he was not having his hair cut as it would ruin his life - ok slight over exageration there on his part.

I asked him to calm down and we could discuss things like mature people we are. cue more screaming and shouting, crying, throwing things, me having to grab DS2 off the floor where he was playing and DS1 throwing a dining chair across the room.

I didn't back him into a corner I explained things and asked what he thought - not what he wanted to do.

I have been guilty of shouting in the past but can hand on my heart say I have not for at least 12m although i do talk in a stern voice to him - i.e not softly softly when he is in endangering himself and others. Because at that time i need to stop his actions there and then.

Theboss
I am all for authority and am a great believer in it and rules. I stick to my rules with both DS's regardless of who it upsets and offends. My rules are simple and easy to follow. To say I rail against authority is so wrong on so many levels I am the complete opposite. What I say on here about things is not what I say to my son or near him tbh.

DS has always been told by me and shown by me to respect others and authority - no child likes rules but his reactions are extreme - i will get to that in a minute though. I was brought up to know that respect comes from respecting and being respectful - the same way I have brought DS up.

I don't opt out of parenting, i don't allow him to rule the roost in anyway. I have an option when he is having a meltdown I put him in his room and lock the door with a key (landlord had locks on all doors before i moved here) where he will smash up his room, kick things punch things, headbutt things and kick holes in furniture/doors. or leave him where i can see him and just deal with things as they occur and try to prevent them as i see them arise. which is what I do or rather try to do.

He doesn't choose where or how he lives, he does try to make things difficult but I stick to my guns and will carry on with things.

A prime example is Saturday DP wanted to take us all out, he had a rare day off work and he and I discussed where to go. We decided to go to Gullivers as we have been there a few times and both DS's enjoyed it. So come Saturday morning DP who had stayed over and I got up, packed the lunch, got clothes and buggy ready etc then got the boys up. Thats when the fun started....this was at 7.15 we were leaving at 8am - we eventually left at 10 when i dragged ds to the car in his boxers threw his clothes into the car and said he had a choice get dressed or spend the day walking around in his boxers. This was after having asked him to get dressed at least 30 times. DP was all for not going anywhere but I was sticking to our plans and not letting DS ruin the day. He did get dressed and then spent the day sulking, we didn't go to Gullivers but down the coast instead. Everything became a reason for him to moan - I bought a drink for us all and it wasn't good enough,bought him an ice cream it was the wrong one, bought him a sandwich (which he had chosen) it was the wrong one - you get the picture?
Either way we had a good day even if he did sulk and act stroppy all day bar 5 minutes in the aquarium when i actually managed to get a nice few photos of us all.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 11:48

Stay
at DS's age my life was very different. I didn't have much opportunity to misbehave due to dad being disabled, we were brought up in and around hospitals, we could be got out of bed and taken at any time. we took it in turns to care for dad from a young age whether it be to get his tablets or help him to the toilet, pull his socks up or help change dressings on wounds.

I rebeled when I was 19/20 until then other than the odd fight/argument in school i was well behaved on the whole, did my chores and school work and enjoyed family days out.

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compo · 20/07/2010 11:48

The only reason that I askedhow much he spent at his gran's was because if he's at school all week I don't see when he gets to do fun stuff with you
is ds2 dp's child by the way?
Try a baby wipe on the lipstick

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 11:55

Compo, as i said if we have plans to go out then he is at home with us, if we are not going out he goes to mums which is his choice and tbh is one of the few i agree with.

DS2 is dps but dp spends more time with DS1 than he does ~DS2. he takes him fishing, bowling, cinemas, theme parks etc where as DS2 and I don't do most of those with them.

and before anyone says about me and DS spending time together this is something we have addressed numerous times and I have made plans to take him out with his knowledge and without his knowledge and it always goes the same way - tits up.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 12:04

Dandy
I said right from the start the proffessional hairstyle thing was throughout the school - right from when i first mentioned it.

I do know of one child who has not been sent home with the same hairstyle as i am friends with his dad. I don't know if others were you are right there.

The only belief i have is that the school should not have changed the goal posts when they are in contact with me and the network helping me and ds and it has been explained to them that if they say they are going to do something to punish ds then they need to carry it through. The only time I disagreed was when I believed DS to be telling me the truth on something - but i still took him to the Saturday detention.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 12:17

Actually I wonder how would you have all dealt with the following situations.

DS, DS2, and myself in the living room. DS2 napping, DS1 and I playing the Wii. All going well until I got a higher score than DS1. He got annoyed and I said no worries bet you will beat me this time and restarted the game for the 9th time. DS1 through himself on the chair and started kicking the dining table. he then stood up and chucked/shoved it across the room breaking one of the legs.

I made him go to his room while i calmed DS2 down who had been woken by the noise, and then cleaned the mess up and threw the table away.

his punishment was that until he has paid me back for the replacement table (£40 off gumtree) he is not having any pocket money. He gets £2.50 a week, it was £5 but he kept stealing from me so it all got stopped and we have built it up slowly.

WWYHD?

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compo · 20/07/2010 12:20

Sorry if I misunderstood but why doesn't dp live with you?

TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 12:22

Dandy after seeing his hair i agreed it needed cutting/trimming, in fact just this morning I told him i didn't like it even though I trimmed it last night and it made him look like a thug. although i didn't say that bit to him.

I also found out this morning "by accident" that BIL didn't give him a No:2 because he didn't have the guide for it, and my mum knowing diddly about shaving hair believed it was a No:3 when actually upon closer inspection you can see it is a No:1 - hence me trimming it in his sleep.

The initial reaction when i hadn't seen it was because i believed it to have been done how I had said "no shorter than a No:2 at the sides".

The school really need to be consistant for anything to actually work.

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DandyLioness · 20/07/2010 12:23

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 12:23

Compo, he did live with me for a while and due to a number of things we now live in seperate homes. But are still together.

I dont really want to go into it tbh.
But it is a mixture of things

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DandyLioness · 20/07/2010 12:26

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 12:27

Dandy atm he plays the Wii if DP is here, i refuse to have him play it when I am here alone and I won't play it with him because I have told him I will not tolerate his outbursts over a game.

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compo · 20/07/2010 12:27

Fair enough
was just thinking a male influence in the house mught help
but of course it might not
I think it's great how you answer all that's thrown at you on these threads
good luck xx

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 12:29

Compo, I hav nothing to hide. I don't see the point in starting a thread and then running because I don't like the replies, at the end of the day I use MN to vent when I am feeling crap about things.

(btw baby wipes didn;t work on the lipstick)

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 12:32

I am not saying its the schools fault what I am saying is rather than them giving him a detention and calling me to talk to him while he is in their care if they carry through on their threats then it will have an impact. If they say to him ~"if this behaviour continues you will get a saturday dentention" and it never happens then its an empty threat and he laughs in their faces.

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TheLadyEvenstar · 20/07/2010 12:55

I may as well start at the begining and tell you all I know now and everything should hopefully make more sense, as it is starting to for me.

I would like to try and explain things as they have been explained to me so please bare with me as I may make some errors.

The people involved with DS1 and I now are not only discussing the possibility of ASD but we have also discussed things that happened when I was with DS's father.

There is a thing called "Arrested emotional development" this is caused by something traumatic happening in a childs life - being a witness to DV in DS1's case - and their emotional development being stunted at that age. iyswim?

Now I discussed how DS1 will shut the light on and off with DS2 in the bathroom - to me this is vindictive and cruel - however the people involved have explained this is DS's way of controling a situation, he feels the need to be in control as much as he can because he could not control what he saw with regard to the DV.

There was an incindent when he was 6 which i feel a lot of guilt for and which also taught DS that people in authority - mum, teachers, police etc are not worth listening to as they will let you down. Now although I feel guilty about this incident I had nothing to do with it and was not present at the time.

These 2 things explain a lot of his behaviours BUT there are other issues which has led to the assessments.

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