Labour isn't Working - Thread 42

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A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙☕️

We're gearing up for the Burnham budget. 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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I'm getting angry with this. Quite a few political mouthpieces have said recently that Kemi needs to start talking about her personal life and background more. I strongly disagree. Why the F should she be forced to talk about this stuff? Drives me effing mad.

The memories she's described here are horrific. No child should experience that, and she certainly shouldn't have to talk about it to appease those who like to compare her to Enoch Powell. The comments don't surprise me at all tbh. The left will react in the same way.

The left will always be on the attack for Kemi. It’s pretty vicious.

I agree with you, she’s strong and should ignore them.

Times have launched a review of welfare. First installment reveals that 2 million people are claiming sickness benefits without checks.

It means billions of pounds a year in sickness benefits are being paid to claimants whose eligibility has not been checked, although it is not known how many would no longer qualify for payments.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/f99841b2-d2da-4b7e-b6e2-197608c2397f?shareToken=eca51128ffe4b9659099d68f9e6ca03c

I don't think it is just the left attacking KB Reading the comments in the article @EasternStandard kindly provided a proportion of the comments cannot help themselves nudging readers to vote Reform/restore. Hence the skewed slant on the red green arrows. Coincidence or round robin messages to members?

I think it was @DancingFerret😀I haven’t read it, I’m a bit fatigued with various attacks.

She’s doing well. She gets many detractors but she is very strong. Also something positive I love that she attends things like LFW and the literary festival. Those creative sectors are important.

The DM comments won't be written by lefties, but many of the comments on mn are. They will happily jump on the same bandwagon as the Restore supporters if they're attacking Kemi.

Yes I love that she does this too. It was great to see her at LFW.

True. You’d think a black female leader wouldn’t be denigrated as she is, even if they disagree with the policies. But the attacks are personal and harsh. Sad to see.

Whatever is said on here she is doing very well in personal ratings and enjoying being so successful I bet.

Yes agree. They only ever admire middle aged white males.
The worst ones I've read on here were saying she 'sees the black in everything', and using 'chocolate brownie mix' as a euphemism for Kemi. All from the those who think they're oh so tolerant.

You know what they say about the far-right and the far-left. Its a horseshoe.

Yeah, she looks happy. 😊

Thank you for the new thread, too!

🤣🤣 at all the name changes.

I've no idea who anyone is. 😂

Can't blame you though with all the over invested types on here.

Oof.
Nigel Farage is set to pledge a five year-ban on migrants being granted asylum if Reform UK wins the next general election.In a speech scheduled for 11am, the party’s leader will announce plans to shut down Britain’s asylum system for a full parliamentary term and deport around 90,000 people who are currently on asylum waiting lists.Mr Farage will detail Reform’s most stringent border policy to date at a press conference in Hythe, Kent.

Probably because Labour only have white, middle aged leaders and they can’t divert.

Love that she breaks that mould. Her success really gets to some.

I instinctively recoil at this sort of announcement.

But there is a growing sense in the country that international treaties on refugees and asylum have stopped addressing the issues they were created for and have become overwhelmingly abused by economic migrants and bad actors. I can see that this sort of policy might well gain traction to the point that we suspend adherence to these obligations and simply refuse asylum. I can well imagine some in Labour moving that way if they conclude that they’re being left behind by public sentiment.

There’s a humanitarian argument for it as well. The great majority of asylum seekers are refused asylum here or in the EU. So there are many, many more people who will have been exploited, abused, raped and endangered, or even killed, by the wicked criminals who enable all this trafficking, than there are genuine refugees. If we shut the door, the incentive to make the journey and for unscrupulous people to exploit these people goes away.

Yes I feel the same. Instinctively, it makes me wince, particularly deportations of those already here.
But, there's also a feeling that things have got so bad that only something drastic like this will stem the tide. I'm quite torn.

Yes, I should have added that I don’t believe there’s any case for deporting anyone who’s been granted leave to be here. Obviously there’s a situation where new information might show that someone had lied and that their status should be reviewed, but in the main I’m very, very much against any retrospective action.

I know exactly what you meant as my instincts are the same. I think some kind of amnesty would sit better with me than deportations.

But then I think of the bloke who tried to hurt my DD, and I think, nope. Load 'em up, ship 'em out.

I think so, too.

I also think the majority in the UK are sick and tired of being gas-lit and called racist, simply for having the nerve to question immigration levels, and the validity of those claiming asylum.

It touches upon welfare, tax, and crime.

Agreed. Its gone too far now. The gaslighting is so counter productive. People are just desperate for it to stop.
My capacity for compassion and empathy has been pushed to it's limit.

Horseshoe I must remember that.

We need time to catch our breath. So banning all with fair warning for the illegals. You ditch your passport that immediately excludes entry and you'll be put on the next plane to Rwanda/Congo/. We're being played.

So after Burnham shot from the hip (again) telling TRIP that Russia interfered with the Brexit referendum, No.10 have been forced to concede that the result was legitimate.

Therefore there is no evidence that any interference by Russia actually changed the result. Why does Burnham keep doing this? He shoots his mouth off for likes, and then others have to clear up the mess. I almost felt a bit sorry for the minister doing the media round this morning.

Bloody hell he’s a liability. He just says whatever nonsense. I missed the media round, should have listened.