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Labour isn't Working - Thread 42

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Nuthatch26 · 11/10/2026 16:35

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙☕️

We're gearing up for the Burnham budget. 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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EasternStandard · 14/10/2026 18:38

It seems Piddington is pushing on their situation. The Labour MPs are just ignoring them.

Nuthatch26 · 14/10/2026 19:04

EasternStandard · 14/10/2026 18:38

It seems Piddington is pushing on their situation. The Labour MPs are just ignoring them.

What's happening with Piddington please?

I haven't heard any news today so bit behind. Still haven't watched PMQs either.

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EasternStandard · 14/10/2026 19:45

Nuthatch26 · 14/10/2026 19:04

What's happening with Piddington please?

I haven't heard any news today so bit behind. Still haven't watched PMQs either.

Hi I didn’t hear PMQs or what went on but there was a bit on the radio with Piddington women speaking, there was possibly a vote on something in the HoC. They had written en masse to female MPs and no response from Labour.

Basically feeling completely ignored. Plus it’s costing £250m.

They have being mc and from leafy area in their side and they’re good at raising awareness but still getting the complete blanking from Labour and half the media.

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Nuthatch26 · 14/10/2026 19:52

Thanks Eastern 😊

I'll do some digging on that when I have time. I heard about the letter the residents had written to female MPs. Shocking that they've been ignored.

Is this what Burnham meant when he said wealthier areas need to take their fair share? Not going well in Piddington is it. Not a good look for the Lib Dems either.
Ideology vs reality.

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Nuthatch26 · 14/10/2026 20:08

Food prices are expected to rise significantly next year after ministers failed to act on repeated warnings from supermarkets about the effects of the Iran crisis, MPs have been told.

Prices could rise by more than 6 per cent, and the British Retail Consortium (BRC) said ministers made no progress on protecting the food supply chain from soaring fuel and fertiliser costs.

Food and drink inflation will reach 3.9 per cent by December and peak at 6.4 per cent in July next year, according to forecasts by the Food and Drink Federation. Separate forecasts from the Institute of Grocery Distribution (IGD) suggest that food inflation will reach an average of between 5.6 per cent and 6.6 per cent across next year.

Bligh also blamed government policy for adding to the pressure on retailers. He said changes to employment costs, business rates and packaging charges, among other measures, had added about £8bn a year to costs across the retail sector since the last general election.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/3fbfc545-fa3c-4dfa-b21d-a650b151e561?shareToken=f318da910d72a6c71ab6133581e6e723

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KathleenDarleenDayKnight · 14/10/2026 22:08

Re the Sally Rooney thing, I think it's that her profits would be supporting a prescribed organisation so the publishers would have had little choice there.

QuiteUnbelievable · 14/10/2026 22:45

What the hell are they doing nuthatch ?
What is our gov doing for goodness sake.

redange · 14/10/2026 23:46

It makes you wonder about what Andy Burnham's motives are all about . He pretends to be a nice ordinary guy, who wants to be liked. Thus, why then is he a complete and utter "Fairy Tale" talker and Bullshitter . The, man who just likes to be liked, is in due course become more hated than Kier Starmer.

LupaMoonhowl · 14/10/2026 23:53

Had a date arranged through mutual friends a couple of years ago /rather attractive man/leading medic in his field.
Then I saw on LinkedIn that he had quit X for BlueSky.
Reader, I canceled the date.

Nuthatch26 · 15/10/2026 07:47

QuiteUnbelievable · 14/10/2026 22:45

What the hell are they doing nuthatch ?
What is our gov doing for goodness sake.

Precisely nothing. The Iran conflict began in February and we know that the summer weather will also impact food supply. They've done nothing.
According to the article, they had a meeting 'last week'.

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EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 08:06

This originates in the FT but I can’t see it replicated in more places yet so this link. As it’s a headline on the news

https://tradersunion.com/news/financial-news/show/3815962-uk-disability-benefit-overhaul-costs/

Their summary here
As reported by Financial Times, the Resolution Foundation says 16% of personal independence payment, or Pip, claimants in England and Wales…. condition does not create extra day-to-day costs

Nuthatch26 · 15/10/2026 08:50

EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 08:06

This originates in the FT but I can’t see it replicated in more places yet so this link. As it’s a headline on the news

https://tradersunion.com/news/financial-news/show/3815962-uk-disability-benefit-overhaul-costs/

Their summary here
As reported by Financial Times, the Resolution Foundation says 16% of personal independence payment, or Pip, claimants in England and Wales…. condition does not create extra day-to-day costs

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As reported by Financial Times, the Resolution Foundation says 16% of personal independence payment, or Pip, claimants in England and Wales should no longer receive cash benefits because their condition does not create extra day-to-day costs. Based on a survey of 2,500 claimants, the think-tank argues this would affect about 670,000 people, with 490,000 losing eligibility for support entirely and others instead receiving one-off equipment grants or services linked to work or education.

The Labour lot will love that. 😬

No wonder Burnham has delayed the report.

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Nuthatch26 · 15/10/2026 09:06

Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood has warned she will strip Eritreans of UK visas if the country does not accept returns of failed asylum seekers.Eritrea abruptly withdrew cooperation with returns earlier this year. Eritreans were the most common nationality of migrants arriving by small boats in the year to June.Mahmood said: "Eritrea has had every chance to accept the return of criminals and those with no right to be in the UK. Unlike other countries, it has refused. "My message to the Eritrean government is simple: take back your nationals or face a complete ban on your citizens entering the UK. "I will not hesitate to impose further measures on other countries refusing to co-operate."

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Nuthatch26 · 15/10/2026 09:09

Ten trade unions have called on Burnham to reject plans to drill at Rosebank after the energy secretary said a decision on Jackdaw was imminent.

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EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 09:12

Nuthatch26 · 15/10/2026 08:50

As reported by Financial Times, the Resolution Foundation says 16% of personal independence payment, or Pip, claimants in England and Wales should no longer receive cash benefits because their condition does not create extra day-to-day costs. Based on a survey of 2,500 claimants, the think-tank argues this would affect about 670,000 people, with 490,000 losing eligibility for support entirely and others instead receiving one-off equipment grants or services linked to work or education.

The Labour lot will love that. 😬

No wonder Burnham has delayed the report.

Thanks. It’ll be interesting to see what Burnham does with that. The Resolution foundation is left not right.

justasking111 · 15/10/2026 09:15

Nuthatch26 · 15/10/2026 09:09

Ten trade unions have called on Burnham to reject plans to drill at Rosebank after the energy secretary said a decision on Jackdaw was imminent.

"Burnham - Rosebank and Jackdaw decisions coming 'shortly' - BBC News" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c92031m6knljo

Andy Burnham leaving Downing Street. He is wearing a dark blue suit, blue tie and glasses. He is carrying a red folder.

Burnham - Rosebank and Jackdaw decisions coming 'shortly'

Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch has urged the prime minister to stop "faffing about" with the North Sea oil and gas fields.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c92031m6knljo

justasking111 · 15/10/2026 09:21

"Ten unions call on Burnham to reject drilling at Rosebank oil field | ITV News" https://www.itv.com/news/2026-10-14/ten-unions-call-on-burnham-to-reject-drilling-at-rosebank-oil-field

justasking111 · 15/10/2026 09:25

"Andrea Egan - Wikipedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Egan

This is the leader of unison wanting to stop Rosebank and Jackdaw.

Andrea Egan - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Egan

EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 09:25

justasking111 · 15/10/2026 09:21

"Ten unions call on Burnham to reject drilling at Rosebank oil field | ITV News" https://www.itv.com/news/2026-10-14/ten-unions-call-on-burnham-to-reject-drilling-at-rosebank-oil-field

This surprised me as I had thought of the unions pro work. Looking it up - The trade unions publicly in favour of drilling at the Rosebank oil field are Unite the Union and GMB

It makes sense as they represent different workers, still it poses an issue for Labour.

Nuthatch26 · 15/10/2026 09:27

Will be interesting to see the Labour spin on these issues.
"Pragmatic" seems to be Burnham's buzzword for U turn. 😂

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EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 09:32

Yep you’ve got it, he’ll do it call it ‘pragmatic’ and that’ll filter on to here for the sell in.

He might use the Resolution Foundation numbers to cut PIP and we’ll see how that goes down on mn.

SubstandardMotelsOnTheLa · 15/10/2026 10:35

EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 09:32

Yep you’ve got it, he’ll do it call it ‘pragmatic’ and that’ll filter on to here for the sell in.

He might use the Resolution Foundation numbers to cut PIP and we’ll see how that goes down on mn.

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Five out of six (84%) of PIP recipients do report extra costs. There might be some tweaking to the system for sure. But wholesale cuts for everyone on PIP seem unlikely and is not what the RF is recommending.

RF recommends a function test should remain at the heart of the PIP system, but that assessments should also include a discussion of what extra costs claimants experience and what would help them participate more in the wider world. Also that
there should be three elements that a decision maker can award a claimant: an ongoing cash element to contribute to additional costs; a capped one-off payment for capital items such as aids and adaptations; and a participation element, usually delivered through local services, designed to build claimants’ capacity to engage with society.

I hope this extra information is helpful to you all.

Labour isn't Working - Thread 42
EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 10:40

SubstandardMotelsOnTheLa · 15/10/2026 10:35

Five out of six (84%) of PIP recipients do report extra costs. There might be some tweaking to the system for sure. But wholesale cuts for everyone on PIP seem unlikely and is not what the RF is recommending.

RF recommends a function test should remain at the heart of the PIP system, but that assessments should also include a discussion of what extra costs claimants experience and what would help them participate more in the wider world. Also that
there should be three elements that a decision maker can award a claimant: an ongoing cash element to contribute to additional costs; a capped one-off payment for capital items such as aids and adaptations; and a participation element, usually delivered through local services, designed to build claimants’ capacity to engage with society.

I hope this extra information is helpful to you all.

You sound like you support these changes already.

Not sure if you’re a Burnham thread contributor. It’ll be interesting to see the Labour sell on changes.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 15/10/2026 10:51

EasternStandard · 15/10/2026 09:12

Thanks. It’ll be interesting to see what Burnham does with that. The Resolution foundation is left not right.

I find it very unlikely that Burnham would try to act on any report like that. His backbenchers would revolt and he’s terrified of falling out with even sections of Labour.

His pitch has been ‘I’m more left than Starmer’ and if he does anything sensible like cut public spending on welfare he’s in trouble with the party. Which for a man who can’t live without adoration is not a nice prospect.

GiaGia16 · 15/10/2026 11:35

Well the backbenchers can revolt (again) but they must know they are in last chance saloon this time.

But yes, Burnham will probably not dare touch it anyway.

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