Thread 3 Burnham: Receso para reorganizarse

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There's more in the Times today about Farage and his £5 million gift which casts serious doubt on his claims not to have been planning a return to politics in early 2024

The drip drip of negative information seems never-ending

Nigel Farage struck Reform comeback deal long before election

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The walls are falling down around him - about time too.

I always love the saying “give someone enough rope”.

I’m wondering if all the media attention he got and being on everything helped the downfall. When you’re out there everywhere blaming “the establishment” for everyone’s else’s problems and then you’re caught taking millions frequently …….

pales against “Starmers glasses”.

Morning all. On holiday so trying to catch up. Tax to follow.

My tax is a red kite that's taken to perching in a tree next to our garden.

Thanks for the thread @BIossomtoes
No cat tax here because I'm too cross with our cat for waking me up when I should have finally got a lie in.

You had clearly failed in your Catmother duties then @Zonder! You should be up at sparrow's fart opening tins/pouches for your owner.

Rupert Lowe has made an offer to Farage to form an alliance with Restore in order to beat the "left wing alliance". His conditions are: mass deportation of millions of people; "de-Islamification"of the UK; a referendum on the death penalty; massive spending cuts; and no ex-Tory ministers in cabinet.

@BIWI is right @Zonder with that attitude you'll be looking for another position if you're not careful

Good luck with that. The man’s deranged.

https://apple.news/ALM0VNgk3RHqF5gC_TZkEIQ

Quelle Surpise!

He posted a video on X to announce all this. It is quite chilling. He is sitting in his beautiful house calmly spouting hate as if it is the most natural thing in the world to do on a Sunday morning.

I will make sure it doesn't happen again. Even though she only eats the dry stuff and has permanent access!

I think the handful of dreamies I dispensed as soon as I got up may have headed that off for now.

I can easily believe that the whole Reform crowd didn't bother doing any due diligence (familiarity breeds contempt and all that) and completely overlooked the fact that it is a criminal offence to pay someone to stand (or not stand) for parliament.

(Never underestimate the parsimony of greed).

Hence the knee jerk reaction to the donation being uncovered and clearly being within the code of conduct was to paint it as a payment. Thus making things a lot worse and bringing in the National Crime Agency -who may already have been alerted by the banking system.

This last fact now paints Farages whole "debanking" saga in a very different light. I cannot be the only person on this thread - let alone in the UK - who feels that now means a lot more than a spat over values.

What is also interesting about it is the role George Cottrell played orchestrating it all.

He might not be a paid employee but he’s clearly involved in management. He just doesn’t get directly paid. But there is clearly a benefit somewhere in it for him.

Reform owed Tice money and in order to clear the party debt Tice was repaid part of the £, wrote off the remainder. Simultaneously George Cottrell’s mother was replenishing the coffers with similar amounts.

Thats not a coincidence.

And by the looks of it the leaks are internal - or ex-internal. Somebody doesn’t want to be prosecuted for following orders.

Due diligence is making sure that the t is crossed and the I dotted, especially when it comes to large amounts of money being transferred to a bank account.

Would anyone feel safe with a Government led by Nigel Farage?

I am less awed by corporate compliance than some.

If it was doing it's job properly in the UK and Europe, no one would be using AWS or MS or Google cloud services. Let alone Windows or Android or iOS.

And it's hard not to feel Reform would have skimped on their compliance too.

But we're talking about Richard Tice here @SerendipityJane

Not really sure if that invalidates or confirms my point of view.

Rupert Lowe is disgusting in a whole different way from Farage. And some of the same ways. Hard to know how to get back to sensible discourse after those two.

Yep, Farage is corrupt, greedy and power hungry but Lowe is nasty in a whole different way.

Surprising nobody.
Far right thug that gave Nazi salute at ‘Unite the Clans’ has a record of violence against women.

“He had previously been imprisoned for offences against women before they met around 2019, and her life was devastated by his relentless attacks. She said: "Ryan would use me as a punchbag. He smashed my head into a mirror. He has gave me black eyes, smashed up phones. You name it, he's done it. He's a very angry, nasty person. He'd get drunk, would take drugs and he'd get angry and the cycle would repeat.”

https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-nazi-salute-protester-exposed-34388277

Truly horrific.

Am I allowed to call him a violent fascist?

There’d be no argument from me @TemperanceWest